Jurassic World discussion (spoilers)

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Blade, I sent you a PM about the JW issue. Did you not get it?

I did bud, I was just already getting my aunt to let me borrow her card. I do appreciate the offer!

Not to sound harsh or anything but banks and credit unions and such are a dime a dozen..if you dont like the one your at, take your business somewhere they give you what you need to function, dont let them determine your reality, do that yourself.

That's true in most places. In our city, Bluff City, there isn't a bank or a credit union, the one I use has two branches one in the next city over I use, Piney Flats which is pretty close, but it's the only CU/bank now they have, the other left last year.  I can go to Bristol or Johnson City but that's really out of the way if your just looking to make a deposit and get back home.

[Dinomike]

Does anyone know who makes these T.rexes that appear in the movie? Not Hasbro....?

[stargatedalek]

Those are props, I recall hearing that an extra actually knocked one over and it shattered.

[Gwangi]

Shame Hasbro can't actually make something that looks that good.

[Takama]

Well some Favorite Skeletons were Purchused from Dans Dinosaurs for the Movie.   You can see them in the lab with Dr Wu.   Dan said that that Giant Spinosaurus Skeleton was based on the Favorite model.

[Dinomike]

Those are props, I recall hearing that an extra actually knocked one over and it shattered.

That's a pity! I was hoping for these to appear as toys at some stage!

[suspsy]

http://youtu.be/TXGCyjJh48I

This perfectly sums up a number of major issues I had with JW's plot. And it's funny!

[DinoLord]

To be fair, the enclosure door issue is addressed in the film. Owen and the two workers immediately try to run for the small man-sized door only to have the Indominus step in their path - only then does the portly worker open the main dinosaur-sized door out of  desperation.

[HD-man]

To be fair, the enclosure door issue is addressed in the film. Owen and the two workers immediately try to run for the small man-sized door only to have the Indominus step in their path - only then does the portly worker open the main dinosaur-sized door out of  desperation.

Which makes me wonder why there's only 1 man-sized door?

[stargatedalek]

To be fair, the enclosure door issue is addressed in the film. Owen and the two workers immediately try to run for the small man-sized door only to have the Indominus step in their path - only then does the portly worker open the main dinosaur-sized door out of  desperation.

Nearly everything from that was actually addressed in the film... Normally I like HISHE but I felt this one wasn't made with as much effort.

[Dinomike]

Well...it made me smile, pretty funny!

[Arul]

Another fan made, funny enough. This guy saving his drink when bunch of pterosaur invading lol

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Another fan made, funny enough. This guy saving his drink when bunch of pterosaur invading lol

Wow...I'm a HUGE Parrothead..I so totally would have bought that! I've wondered if Jimmy had a cameo somewhere..he did visit the set after all.

[Takama]

WEll, JW has been knocked off its throne by a bunch of  small yellow anoying things.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/12/minions-march-to-top-spot-at-box-office?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=Movies&utm_content=15&utm_campaign=Blogroll

Thing is, PArt of it is my fault, as i seen the film with my Family On Saturday (I was planning on Seeing JW again while they enjoyed there movie, but the Tickets were Sold out)

[stargatedalek]

I saw Minions as well, while I didn't love it, it was better than I was expecting and definitely a solid movie worth watching.

[Gwangi]

WEll, JW has been knocked off its throne by a bunch of  small yellow anoying things.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/12/minions-march-to-top-spot-at-box-office?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=Movies&utm_content=15&utm_campaign=Blogroll

Thing is, PArt of it is my fault, as i seen the film with my Family On Saturday (I was planning on Seeing JW again while they enjoyed there movie, but the Tickets were Sold out)

Yeah but "Jurassic World" has been number one for what now? A month? This was bound to happen and kids movies like this often claim top spot. Honestly I'm surprised "Inside Out" didn't do better. I doubt "Minions" will ultimately generate as much money as JW did.

[stargatedalek]

Watching all four films in order yesterday and I have to say I'm pleased I went to see Jurassic World again. I noticed a lot of things I missed the first time and I feel I can give a much better comparison to the other films now.

I will say that the CGI in Jurassic World is beyond a doubt better than the CGI in the previous films. Yes I understand that the CGI in the first two was groundbreaking for its time, but (to paraphrase Doug Watson) so was Avatar and even that looks like a super expensive cartoon in comparison to what is coming out now. I definitely feel the lacking of practical effects in JW, even JP/// used a lot of practical effects, and even if (aside from the pteranodons which I thought were superb) JP///'s practical effects fell short of the other films they definitely knew when to use animatronics and when to use animation. I'm hopeful that the next installment receives a higher budget and is able to use more practical effects, but I do feel they missed their chance to really use practical effects to best impact since this film was so nostalgia oriented.

Watching JW again I was very pleased with the pterosaurs. I probably wouldn't have said it after seeing JW the first time but a half hour after seeing JP/// I can say that beyond a shadow of a doubt the JW pterosaurs are the most accurate in all the JP films. For those who complained about the pteranodons crest I'd like to remind you of this *. The JPTLW pteranodon was the least accurate by far, shrink wrapped practically to the point of being a snake and it stood on its hind legs. The JP/// pteranodon were much better in terms of proportions and movement, but they had absurd leg strength and definitely couldn't swim. The JW pteranodon walked on all fours, dove and swam underwater, and had a lot more difficulty picking people up (still impossibly strong legs however). The dimorphodon was overall pretty well proportioned, but they toned down its teeth for some reason and left out its signature rounded puffin shaped muzzle. The pycnofibres however redeem its strange head in my eyes. The generic azhdarchid (which I didn't even notice the first time I watched!) had pretty good proportions and a nice coat of pycnofibres, I'm not even sure they actually attacked anyone. Does this mean anything? Not really, accuracy means null in Jurassic park, but I really felt like putting those complaints about the pterosaurs being worse than in JP/// to rest. (I actually prefer the pterosaur scene in JP/// ever so slightly, and possibly because of nostalgia).

* https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Pteranodonts.png/350px-Pteranodonts.png

Zach and Grey were literally unnecessary. What did they even accomplish? Claire and Owen could easily have been put into the same situation going out to look at the dying herbivores. And the raptor chase with the ambulance they could have easily thrown any other supporting character in the back of the ambulance. I know its a sort of tradition to always have at least one kid in a Jurassic Park movie but I really think that has always been one of the series weaker points (since IMO other than Kelly no child has ever actually been useful and her usefulness was almost to the point of absurdity). And neither Zach or Grey had any redeeming qualities, one was annoying and the other seemed like he was just waiting for the chance to cheat on his girlfriend, not great character aptitudes for protagonists (unless you are trying to get one of those gritty protagonist things going on, which they didn't).

I really loved the cinematography of Jurassic World. The scenes following the raptors in particular I really loved. Even those bits of clips shot through cameras on the raptors or the mercs felt very real (and I'm someone who genuinely hates found footage). I felt the fight scenes and chase scenes were really well choreographed and I loved them (I've heard that the ankylosaur should have killed indominus but watching it again the ankylosaurs tail really was not moving very fast, it was a halfhearted hit). Overall I found the movement of the animals and 'flow' of the scenes felt very similar to JPTLW, although perhaps that's because so much of it was in tight jungle.

In theme JW was very much like the original, but in terms of atmosphere I felt it was more like JPTLW. JPTLW did a very good job of making the audience feel for the animals, but most of the humans deaths besides Eddie were basically eye candy or revenge for the animals. JW felt very similar in that you really feel for the animals, the herbivores, the raptors, and indominus herself. But most of the human deaths were basically eye candy, except for yet again another revenge for the animals, this time the raptors instead of the compies and rex family.

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Most of the herbivores in JW were very toned down, but I think was on purpose and it helped really set the atmosphere. People had grown bored of dinosaurs and saw them as nothing more than exotic zoo animals. The herbivores were all toned down so they could have fit in amongst any cliche safari animals, and the pterosaurs being all very bright hues of red blue and green, like exotic birds, was also a nice touch I think. But perhaps I'm just reading to much into that. I thought that was really the point, they had to make the herbivores blend into one another as just this boring mass, because that was how the characters saw them. If they had been bright or had interesting behavior like the previous movies we would have been drawn to them and that would have spoiled the atmosphere with the characters finding them to be nothing special, they were expressly intended not to feel important, we were supposed to not see them as anything special.

I didn't find it unrealistic that they moved together because these aren't wild animals, animals do weird things in captivity. Neon tetras school with cardinal tetras, different species of vultures will form bonds, emus will flock with rheas, really nothing about Jurassic World felt natural, but it wasn't supposed to feel natural. It was supposed to feel like any old "Zoo-Park", and I think they did that superbly.
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Jurassic World is a solid movie, well worthy of a place in my favorite franchise of all time and a spot as my second favorite film of all time, right below the original Jurassic Park and above A Certain Magical Index: The Movie.


I'm awfully late to the discussion but after re-watching JPTLW yesterday I do think they addressed Sarah's bloody clothes. Roland told her not to change them because he wanted the rex to follow them, which was why he was waiting for it to come and why it went after her tent specifically. Its definitely still weird that she would have been so... pitifully un-thorough, but at least it made Roland that much cooler

[DinoLord]

I will say that the CGI in Jurassic World is beyond a doubt better than the CGI in the previous films. Yes I understand that the CGI in the first two was groundbreaking for its time, but (to paraphrase Doug Watson) so was Avatar and even that looks like a super expensive cartoon in comparison to what is coming out now... but I do feel they missed their chance to really use practical effects to best impact since this film was so nostalgia oriented.

I do agree that the CGI is the best of all the films (the raptor daylight shots are really mindblowing), though I think that for the most part the CGI in the early films still holds its own. They definitely should have had more animatronics; hopefully future films will have more!

The generic azhdarchid (which I didn't even notice the first time I watched!) had pretty good proportions and a nice coat of pycnofibres, I'm not even sure they actually attacked anyone.

Was this the big pterosaur on the Spinosaurus skeleton as everyone ran through the doors from main street? I thought it was just a really big Pteranodon. It was actually an azhdarchid then that would be neat, though I would be a bit embarrassed that I didn't notice even after three viewings!

And neither Zach or Grey had any redeeming qualities, one was annoying and the other seemed like he was just waiting for the chance to cheat on his girlfriend, not great character aptitudes for protagonists (unless you are trying to get one of those gritty protagonist things going on, which they didn't).

Personally I didn't find Grey annoying and thought he was very relatable to anyone who ever had a really strong dinosaur obsession as a kid. With Zach, I think part of the character arc is that he learns to look out for his brother rather than simply thinking about girls. My friends and I found Zach and Grey's scene in the Gyrosphere line pretty hilarious, though part of that may have to do with us being teenage boys.

[stargatedalek]

I think the pterosaur on the skeleton was a pteranodon, they only actually appeared flying around I think. They weren't especially obvious other than being blue faced in contrast to the red pteranodon.

I have to admit it was actually pretty funny how he kept starring and it did make for some nice comic relief, but it didn't really feel like he accomplished anything as a character. Yes he starts paying attention to his little brother, but why should the audience care? What possible reason should the audience have to feel he should have to start being nice to his little brother? This is a monster movie not a TLC special, and I feel that the entire subplot (both the whole be nice to your little brother and the divorce thing) they brought along with them was distracting and annoying. Not only that but it was essentially a less interesting/funny version of the exact same divorce themed subplot from JP///!

[DinoLord]

Hm, I did notice some blue-faced pterosaurs but didn't think they looked all that different from the others; I guess I'll have to wait for the Bluray release.