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Rebor: 1/35 Scale Acrocanthosaurus: "Hercules"

Started by joossa, July 18, 2015, 05:28:59 AM

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Shadowknight1

Quote from: amargasaurus cazaui on July 19, 2015, 08:25:13 PM
Notice they stuck with the "museum class" designation....would have thought they learned a bit perhaps about that before...
...So what?  Museum class isn't meant to denote 100% accuracy.  It's meant to denote a piece you might see in a museum shop or a recontruction at a museum.  You see those all the time that aren't 100% accurate, so why continue to rag on REBOR for using that phrase?
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?


amargasaurus cazaui

Whoa shadowknight, tone it down...noone was ragging and your tone is quite aggressive. For real....I just pointed out they have used that museum type term in the past and it has caused them some issues. I do not think it untoward to make that statement as that has been the leading cause of many of the issues people have taken with the models. Museum class is like saying nearly mint...or expertly evaluated..it has no meaning whatsoever and only clouds the water and creates issues for them. Aside from that, just because you see others make the same mistake does not excuse it or justify it any way.
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


Tapejara1122

Hmm... wasn't there some sort of evidence that Acrocanthosaurus was feathered? I wanted to see some feathers... :(


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Victoria's Cantina

I don't really like the "museum quality" advertising myself. Despite the fact that so far, the Acro looks beautiful, there's no guarantee that the final, mass-produced product will be without flaws. I think calling something museum quality before the fact is somewhat arrogant if you cannot guarantee that it will in fact be of such quality, and it's a label that should be given to the item by the buyer if they feel it to be such. It's one thing to say "this is a museum quality piece" and another to say "we strive for museum quality, if our fans think we're hitting that mark then we're doing things right."

Shadowknight1

Quote from: amargasaurus cazaui on July 19, 2015, 08:48:00 PM
Whoa shadowknight, tone it down...noone was ragging and your tone is quite aggressive. For real....I just pointed out they have used that museum type term in the past and it has caused them some issues. I do not think it untoward to make that statement as that has been the leading cause of many of the issues people have taken with the models. Museum class is like saying nearly mint...or expertly evaluated..it has no meaning whatsoever and only clouds the water and creates issues for them. Aside from that, just because you see others make the same mistake does not excuse it or justify it any way.

I apologize if I came off as aggressive.  I just find it a little vexing that these issues keep cropping up even after REBOR said on their Facebook page in a reply to me that "Museum class" was meant to be like something you'd get at a museum, not that it was a 100% accurate representation of the animal.
Quote from: Tapejara1122 on July 19, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
Hmm... wasn't there some sort of evidence that Acrocanthosaurus was feathered? I wanted to see some feathers... :(
To the best of my knowledge, Acrocanthosaurus and other dinosaurs it is related to have not been discovered with feathers.  I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably certain about that.  That's not to say it wasn't possible as I don't think there have been any scale impressions either.  But as yet, we don't think it was feathered.
Quote from: Victoria B on July 19, 2015, 09:00:24 PM
I don't really like the "museum quality" advertising myself. Despite the fact that so far, the Acro looks beautiful, there's no guarantee that the final, mass-produced product will be without flaws. I think calling something museum quality before the fact is somewhat arrogant if you cannot guarantee that it will in fact be of such quality, and it's a label that should be given to the item by the buyer if they feel it to be such. It's one thing to say "this is a museum quality piece" and another to say "we strive for museum quality, if our fans think we're hitting that mark then we're doing things right."
Sideshow advertises their models as "museum quality" but from what I've seen in reviews around here, almost none of the final production models look anywhere near as good as the advertisements.  On the other hand, with the exception of leg warping, nearly every REBOR dino that has been reviewed and photographed has looked at least as good, if not a little better, as the promo pictures.  Utahraptor's blue accented feathers are a good example as the promo pictures would have you think that the feathers on the arms are plain black and white.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

amargasaurus cazaui

I think Victoria said it quite well and I cannot possibly top the way she stated the point so well. I concurr with her views completely.  I do feel the use of terms like this that have no valid underlying meaning or measure of determing their accuracy is counter productive in a large way for this company. Its like baiting the people who search for accuracy over asethetics, and prefer accuracy over any other factor, be it price, or availibility. Even if the flaws are minor and quite excuseable, the terms being thrown around serve as a flashpoint to ignite criticism and invite examination just HOW close the model meets the evidence . Myself I think Victoria said it quite well..they should state they strive for accuracy...which is commendable and yet gives a bit of room in case of an error.
  One other thing...a model looking as good as the pictures does not mean it is accurate..it means that is still as appealing as the pre release images. If it is inaccurate, it is inaccurate both before and after.Sideshow normally gets alot of the science right, although I know they too make mistakes. Wether the models look as good as the images is hardly the point , in a debate about accuracy.
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


tanystropheus

It's just a set of words. It doesn't really mean anything guys.  :D

In 1996, the Nintendo 64 was released with packaging labeling it as, "The Fun Machine". Was it fun? Perhaps, for the 33 million individuals that purchased it.


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Concavenator

The term 'Museum Quality' is quite confusing.Ironically,not all the dinosaur reconstructions from museums are accurate,and some are very badly done.In fact,I've seen more bad reconstructions tham decent ones on museum,and  not to say I don't recall a truly wonderful replica.Furthermore,I've been in museums whose shops do sell only Schleich,the worst company now.
Certainly,they use that term in a somewhat arrogant way.
Oh,and Rebor is not Sideshow,at least yet.

Arul

Quote from: tanystropheus on July 19, 2015, 09:27:16 PM
It's just a set of words. It doesn't really mean anything guys.  :D

In 1996, the Nintendo 64 was released with packaging labeling it as, "The Fun Machine". Was it fun? Perhaps, for the 33 million individuals that purchased it.

Hahhh :v im laughing now, really. I agree with you and Shadowknight1. I remember when they said museum accurate isnt 100% only relate with it anatomy, but also the diorama, sculp, paint, accessory (dino nest, etc) , and educational card.

Shadowknight1

Quote from: Concavenator on July 19, 2015, 11:46:32 PM
The term 'Museum Quality' is quite confusing.Ironically,not all the dinosaur reconstructions from museums are accurate,and some are very badly done.In fact,I've seen more bad reconstructions tham decent ones on museum,and  not to say I don't recall a truly wonderful replica.Furthermore,I've been in museums whose shops do sell only Schleich,the worst company now.
Certainly,they use that term in a somewhat arrogant way.
Oh,and Rebor is not Sideshow,at least yet.
Thank goodness, I can't possibly afford a Sideshow model lol
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

Viking Spawn

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on July 20, 2015, 12:06:49 AM
Quote from: Concavenator on July 19, 2015, 11:46:32 PM
The term 'Museum Quality' is quite confusing.Ironically,not all the dinosaur reconstructions from museums are accurate,and some are very badly done.In fact,I've seen more bad reconstructions tham decent ones on museum,and  not to say I don't recall a truly wonderful replica.Furthermore,I've been in museums whose shops do sell only Schleich,the worst company now.
Certainly,they use that term in a somewhat arrogant way.
Oh,and Rebor is not Sideshow,at least yet.
Thank goodness, I can't possibly afford a Sideshow model lol

If their company and product lines expand...  It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rebor starting making larger scaled models since they obviously have the artist skills to compete with SS directly. 

As of right now, I think their mid range prices are just fine.  And affordable for the average adult collector.

Dinomike

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Look everyone! Photos of Hercules are here! Rebor posted them on their Facebook page.
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Arul

#34
Its just another tease i think because they said in the comment there will be more ;D lovely lovely figure

Quote from: DinoG on July 22, 2015, 11:22:50 AM
Do we have more info about size?

Rebor said its lil bit smaller than the king trex

Shadowknight1



Going by this picture, the "angry eyebrows" aren't his eyebrows at all!
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

Jetoar

Wonderful, colors looks similar Papo Dimetrodon  ^-^.
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Shonisaurus

This Acrocanthosaurus of Rebor makes fools of the other figures of the same species from other factories.

Rebor is already for me with this my favorite company.

Patrx

As much as I dislike REBOR's style in general, the dorsal pattern on this brute is neat.

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