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Safari Ltd Will Be Releasing Six New Dinosaurs In 2016

Started by suspsy, September 01, 2015, 01:23:59 PM

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tanystropheus

Quote from: suspsy on September 08, 2015, 02:53:17 AM
Let's be fair. The WS C. megalodon, is NOT physically identical to a great white, although it takes an enthusiast to tell the difference. An alternative colour scheme, say dark blue or brown with spots, would have gone a long way.

Similarly, it wouldn't be all that difficult to create a distinctive Titanoboa. I don't believe it has to be a "waste."

I'm a bit dissapointed with the Safari Megalodon. I think Favorite nailed it.
I'm also looking forward to REBOR's take on Megalodon


Gwangi

Quote from: suspsy on September 08, 2015, 02:53:17 AM
Let's be fair. The WS C. megalodon, is NOT physically identical to a great white, although it takes an enthusiast to tell the difference. An alternative colour scheme, say dark blue or brown with spots, would have gone a long way.

But is it not physically identical because the sculptor took steps to make it look less like a white shark or is it not physically identical because it's a sub-par toy? I tend to lean towards the former. Even if there are a few VERY minor differences between the Safari megalodon and an actual white shark Safari still didn't make it distinct enough to make a difference. Any other white shark toy could stand in for a megalodon and this guy could easily stand in for a white shark.

suspsy

#62
Well, as I noted in my review, the Megalodon's overall proportions are far beefier than that of any extant great white shark, the snout is blunter, and the teeth are larger. I'm not a biologist, but I'm as fascinated by sharks as I am by dinosaurs. I certainly wouldn't expect a lay person to tell the difference. It's not a great toy in any case. I also think that the Favourite looks good, although I would have preferred a different colour scheme. There's no reason why a Megalodon couldn't have had spots or stripes.

In any case, I doubt Safari plans on releasing another Megalodon anytime in the near future.
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Stuckasaurus (Dino Dad Reviews)

Quote from: Takama on September 08, 2015, 01:20:46 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on September 08, 2015, 01:16:16 AM
Quote from: profnik on September 08, 2015, 12:56:35 AM
so I change my mind I think I put
six new models for the Wild Safari Prehistoric World line 2016 is

Hadrosaurus
Titanoboa
Kosmoceratops
Dreadnoughtus
Megalania
American Mastodon

I just type on the list of Microsoft offices word on my laptop

Titanoboa and Megalania? Wouldn't a toy anaconda and Komodo dragon suffice?

Well They made a Megalodon, and thats a big Great white shark reletive.

I dont think kids would give a Crap if its called a Komodo, or megalania.   They might want a large Lizard for there fantasy adventures, and a MEgalania could fit that demographic, only its based on a real giant lizard

I've been meaning to buy the Venomous Creatures Toob to use that Komodo Dragon as a Megalania. If it were used that way, it would be roughly 1:40 scale by my estimation.

sauroid

well they can make a Titanoboa that looks like this

that looks like a cross between an East African sand boa and a Synbranchid eel (now that looks ancient and weird enough) swallowing a caiman-like prehistoric crocodilian.
"you know you have a lot of prehistoric figures if you have at least twenty items per page of the prehistoric/dinosaur section on ebay." - anon.

stargatedalek

I'm not a huge fan of basing Titanoboa on an anaconda, anaconda live in rivers and marshes, whereas Titanoboa was a coastal animal (probably still marshes, but coastal ones).

suspsy

Quote from: stargatedalek on September 08, 2015, 01:26:45 PM
I'm not a huge fan of basing Titanoboa on an anaconda, anaconda live in rivers and marshes, whereas Titanoboa was a coastal animal (probably still marshes, but coastal ones).

I think that Smithsonian reconstruction that sauroid shared is a fine example of how to make Titanoboa not look like an anaconda.
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Gwangi

Quote from: suspsy on September 08, 2015, 04:00:48 AM
Well, as I noted in my review, the Megalodon's overall proportions are far beefier than that of any extant great white shark, the snout is blunter, and the teeth are larger. I'm not a biologist, but I'm as fascinated by sharks as I am by dinosaurs. I certainly wouldn't expect a lay person to tell the difference. It's not a great toy in any case. I also think that the Favourite looks good, although I would have preferred a different colour scheme. There's no reason why a Megalodon couldn't have had spots or stripes.

In any case, I doubt Safari plans on releasing another Megalodon anytime in the near future.

Yeah, I read your review and I recognize the anatomical differences between the meg toy and an actual white shark. What I'm saying is that I'm not sure if the differences were sculpted intentionally or not and without the sculptor saying so I'm more inclined to think they were not intentional. And yes, the teeth are larger, but I think that's just to show them off. They don't look properly proportioned to me.

suspsy

Do we know who sculpted the Megalodon (since it wasn't Doug Watson)? I have trouble believing that the anatomical differences weren't deliberate. OTOH, given how badly the teeth are arranged in the mouth, perhaps there wasn't a lot of research done.

Anyway, getting back to the main topic. I'm really hoping that there's a stegosaur in the 2016 assortment. They don't seem to have been getting much love lately.
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Gwangi

We really do need more stegosaurs. Huayangosaurus and Tuojiangosaurus specifically would be nice. I love the Kaiyodo Huayangosaurus but we really do need a larger model.

suspsy

Gigantspinosaurus and Wuerhosaurus would also be great. Especially the former.
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Gwangi

Quote from: suspsy on September 09, 2015, 02:00:28 AM
Gigantspinosaurus and Wuerhosaurus would also be great. Especially the former.

Agreed. CollectA did a Wuerhosaurus but it's an older CollectA, I suspect a Safari version would be far superior.

amargasaurus cazaui

Does not seem like a lot of remains to work with...


The remains consisted of the holotype IVPP V.4006, a skull-less fragmentary skeleton, and the paratype IVPP V4007,[3] three vertebrae from the tail of a second individual.[4]
A smaller species from the Ejinhoro Formation in the Ordos Basin in Inner Mongolia, W. ordosensis, was formalized by the same researcher in 1993. It is based on specimen IVPP V6877, a fragmentary skeleton lacking the skull. It was found in 1988.[5] A third species, W. mongoliensis, is based on dorsal and caudal vertebrae as well as a pair of pubes.[6][7]
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen



Stuckasaurus (Dino Dad Reviews)

Yes to stegosaurs! I've been hoping for some more for years. Everybody just does Stegosaurus and Kentrosaurus. I like all the species mentioned above.

suspsy

Quote from: amargasaurus cazaui on September 09, 2015, 03:51:32 AM
Does not seem like a lot of remains to work with...


The remains consisted of the holotype IVPP V.4006, a skull-less fragmentary skeleton, and the paratype IVPP V4007,[3] three vertebrae from the tail of a second individual.[4]
A smaller species from the Ejinhoro Formation in the Ordos Basin in Inner Mongolia, W. ordosensis, was formalized by the same researcher in 1993. It is based on specimen IVPP V6877, a fragmentary skeleton lacking the skull. It was found in 1988.[5] A third species, W. mongoliensis, is based on dorsal and caudal vertebrae as well as a pair of pubes.[6][7]

Dacentrurus is also known from very scant remains, but that didn't stop Dan LoRusso from making a very well-received toy.
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amargasaurus cazaui

Quote from: suspsy on September 09, 2015, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: amargasaurus cazaui on September 09, 2015, 03:51:32 AM
Does not seem like a lot of remains to work with...


The remains consisted of the holotype IVPP V.4006, a skull-less fragmentary skeleton, and the paratype IVPP V4007,[3] three vertebrae from the tail of a second individual.[4]
A smaller species from the Ejinhoro Formation in the Ordos Basin in Inner Mongolia, W. ordosensis, was formalized by the same researcher in 1993. It is based on specimen IVPP V6877, a fragmentary skeleton lacking the skull. It was found in 1988.[5] A third species, W. mongoliensis, is based on dorsal and caudal vertebrae as well as a pair of pubes.[6][7]

Dacentrurus is also known from very scant remains, but that didn't stop Dan LoRusso from making a very well-received toy.
Not sure how precisely that relates to what Doug might or might not create...but if you take a note from his previous years work...Sauropelta...and Nasutoceratops, each were fairly well studied and documented dinosaurs. Each in spite of how well known it was, still was given a  direct consult with the paleo responsible...Ken Carpenter for the Sauropelta, and Eric Lund for the Nasutoceratops.It would not seem in my opinion, likely that Dan would attempt a poorly known dinosaur that he may lack a paleo to consult with for as well.
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


triceratops83

Finding out what Safari is releasing is the best part of the collecting year for me. It's great to see what the other companies release, but Safari really sets the standard. I eagerly await what news of a few weeks' time!
In the end it was not guns or bombs that defeated the aliens, but that humblest of all God's creatures... the Tyrannosaurus rex.

suspsy

My point is simply that just because a dinosaur is known from incomplete remains, it doesn't mean it shouldn't get plastic treatment. But I'd much rather see Gigantspinosaurus than Wuerhosaurus anyway.

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CityRaptor

#78
I fully expect people ( the uneducated public ) complaining that Safari got Spinosaurus wrong if they ever make a Gigantspinosaurus figure.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Concavenator

I predict Safari will have a stegosaur for 2016.Also,as Chinese dinosaurs are represented in the WS line as of late (Monolophosaurus,Yutyrannus), I bet there will be a chinese one.For example,Tuojiangosaurus or Wuerhosaurus,though
Gigantspinosaurus is my favorite stegosaur!.

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