Carnegie Collection by Safari Ltd

[PaleoMatt]

Yea, I bet that too.

[Takama]

Well I got Curious about what was to come after 2015 should the Line continue and the only thing i found out  is that Forrest Rogers was in the middle of doing a Brand New Apatosaurus.

So those of you who were sick of Theropods could of got your change of pace.    It is sad that the line did not continue.

As for what was to come in the future, Mrs Rogers said that she had no clue at that time.

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

Well I got Curious about what was to come after 2015 should the Line continue and the only thing i found out  is that Forrest Rogers was in the middle of doing a Brand New Apatosaurus.

So those of you who were sick of Theropods could of got your change of pace.    It is sad that the line did not continue.

As for what was to come in the future, Mrs Rogers said that she had no clue at that time.

That's very unfortunate. It looks like we were going to get re-sculpts of the staples after all. I hope the figure eventually sees the light of day even if its unlikely.

[Sim]

I used to really like the Carnegie Collection, but over time it became a line that destroyed the interest I had in it.  So, I'm sad because of what the line became and that I'm not sad it ended.  Finding out about how Carnegie wanted Safari to end its prehistoric Wild Safari line, and that it had previously made Safari retire most of its prehistoric mammals, is one more reason I'm not sad the Carnegie Collection didn't continue.  I sympathise with those who wanted the line to continue and are sad it ended though.

Regarding a new Apatosaurus being planned, my thoughts have been: "Oh, wow!"  "Would it have been 1:50 scale like the new Brachiosaurus, annoying people due to the smaller scale again?"  "They recently re-made the Brachiosaurus and a little earlier the Diplodocus, why would they make a new Apatosaurus before Stegosaurus, or Parasaurolophus, or a plesiosaur, or a pterosaur, or Allosaurus since Apatosaurus and Diplodocus are quite similar?"

That's very unfortunate. It looks like we were going to get re-sculpts of the staples after all. I hope the figure eventually sees the light of day even if its unlikely.

I can't avoid noticing how sloooowly the re-sculpts were coming.  I can only imagine how long it might've taken for the staples that really needed a new version to have received one.  I wonder if now that Carnegie is no longer partners with Safari the Carnegie Collection will continue without Safari?

[terrorchicken]

which mammals did they force WS to retire? the old Carnegie ones of the more recent Wild Safari ones?

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

I wonder if now that Carnegie is no longer partners with Safari the Carnegie Collection will continue without Safari?

They were distributed by Schleich in the past, so at least at one point they were using other options even if only for international distribution.

which mammals did they force WS to retire? the old Carnegie ones of the more recent Wild Safari ones?

The new WS ones. I'm assuming that's why they are being re-released the year after their partnership with Carnegie ended.

[CityRaptor]

I highly doubt that they will partner with Schleich again. Schleich is making their own thing and not willing to share. Which also explains why the selection in the first few years of Replica Saurus was heavily inspired by Carnegie. Even more so in case of the plush animals they made in 1994.

[Takama]

I suggested to Mrs. Rogers that the museum should do there own exclusive line like what Australian Age of  dinosaurs is doing.    She liked the idea, but she said it's been a while since she was last in Contact with them.

[DinoLord]

Huh, I wonder what will become of her Apatosaurus sculpt. I'm sure it would have been a thing of beauty.

[Concavenator]

Takama,can you ask her to send you photos of how the Apatosaurus is going,since it will probably never be released¿

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

She may not be able to as it might belong to either Safari or Carnegie. Whoever paid for it.

[Sim]

which mammals did they force WS to retire? the old Carnegie ones of the more recent Wild Safari ones?

The new WS ones. I'm assuming that's why they are being re-released the year after their partnership with Carnegie ended.

Thanks for clarifying that, Pachyrhinosaurus.  I just realised it wasn't that clear which prehistoric mammals I was referring to in my previous post!  Yes, Carnegie made Safari retire most of the Wild Safari prehistoric mammals.  More recently, Carnegie also wanted Safari to discontinue the prehistoric Wild Safari line altogether.  You can see Doug's post where he revealed this here (Reply #737): http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=2631.msg93160#msg93160

[Gwangi]

It sounds like the end of the Carnegie Collection was a good thing for Wild Safari. Wild Safari produces some of the best dinosaurs around with their most recent greatly exceeding Carnegie in quality. I'll take five models per year from Safari over a single tripod theropod from Carnegie any day. Just having those prehistoric mammals back makes the loss of the Carnegie Collection worth it. The CC only ever produced what? Three or four mammals? In all their years? Pitiful!

[JurassicGeek09]

It sounds like the end of the Carnegie Collection was a good thing for Wild Safari. Wild Safari produces some of the best dinosaurs around with their most recent greatly exceeding Carnegie in quality. I'll take five models per year from Safari over a single tripod theropod from Carnegie any day. Just having those prehistoric mammals back makes the loss of the Carnegie Collection worth it. The CC only ever produced what? Three or four mammals? In all their years? Pitiful!

I half agree. At least Carnegie had better paint jobs.

[CityRaptor]

Maybe paintjobs will improve without the Carnegie Collection.

It sounds like the end of the Carnegie Collection was a good thing for Wild Safari. Wild Safari produces some of the best dinosaurs around with their most recent greatly exceeding Carnegie in quality. I'll take five models per year from Safari over a single tripod theropod from Carnegie any day. Just having those prehistoric mammals back makes the loss of the Carnegie Collection worth it. The CC only ever produced what? Three or four mammals? In all their years? Pitiful!

While I won't agree regarding the mammals, I would say that the rest of WS is definately worth it. Do we really need mammals? They are already clogging the modern animal market...especially looking at you Equus and Homo!

[terrorchicken]

Thanks for clarifying that, Pachyrhinosaurus.  I just realised it wasn't that clear which prehistoric mammals I was referring to in my previous post!  Yes, Carnegie made Safari retire most of the Wild Safari prehistoric mammals.  More recently, Carnegie also wanted Safari to discontinue the prehistoric Wild Safari line altogether.  You can see Doug's post where he revealed this here

thanks, that makes me more hopeful that Safari will expand their prehistoric mammal line...

[Gwangi]

Maybe paintjobs will improve without the Carnegie Collection.

It sounds like the end of the Carnegie Collection was a good thing for Wild Safari. Wild Safari produces some of the best dinosaurs around with their most recent greatly exceeding Carnegie in quality. I'll take five models per year from Safari over a single tripod theropod from Carnegie any day. Just having those prehistoric mammals back makes the loss of the Carnegie Collection worth it. The CC only ever produced what? Three or four mammals? In all their years? Pitiful!

While I won't agree regarding the mammals, I would say that the rest of WS is definately worth it. Do we really need mammals? They are already clogging the modern animal market...especially looking at you Equus and Homo!

The market has a lot of modern mammals, not a lot of extinct ones. Where prehistoric animals are concerned the market is clogged with dinosaurs, not mammals. I like my dinosaurs but I would like to see more mammals too. They are after all the spiritual successors to dinosaurs.

[postsaurischian]

....... only thing i found out  is that Forrest Rogers was in the middle of doing a Brand New Apatosaurus.

Ooohh ... I would really like to have a Brand New Apatosaurus by Forest Rogers.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Not really going to enter the debate, Carnegie vs Safari and what is best, but I will still throw out, that the Sauropelta, and Nasutoceratops Doug did last year can sit with the best from Battat, Favorite, Carnegie or anyone else , and fit right in. Those two were a tour'de force for Safari .....and why Doug was a co-winner for the model of the year with that Sauropelta. Whatever it takes to get more dinosaurs like that!!!!

[CityRaptor]

The market has a lot of modern mammals, not a lot of extinct ones. Where prehistoric animals are concerned the market is clogged with dinosaurs, not mammals. I like my dinosaurs but I would like to see more mammals too.

The modern animal market however is much bigger. And clogged by mammals. Thus I would like to see more non-mammals in the prehistoric animal market.