Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[stargatedalek]

its unfortunate, but its been known for a while
it also happened with the leaked visitor map prop

[brandem]

http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2014/11/is-jurassic-world-stealing-from.html

What does he or anyone else want for the microscopic use of of a silhouette of your art, what 1:100th of a cent royalty does he think is fair?

[TJ_Terrorsaur]

The website has been updated and now there are a few dinosaur pictures. The T. rex has a few scars - is it the same one from the first movie?

After rewatching JP last night I'm betting 85% that that is our girl Rexy. The scars on her neck and jaw line up specifically where the "Big one"s claws cut into her before being thrown into the skeleton.
http://youtu.be/OJ9jTOxv7gw

[John]

I couldn't help but notice many old school monster movie things in the trailer for Jurassic World.The egghead scientists in a laboratory setting,the square jawed hero who has misgivings about what said eggheads are doing and crowds running away in panic from something that causes them to brown their underwear when it inevitably gets loose from captivity.I can't wait to see it!

[sauroid]

i love monster film cliches myself.

[Arul]

The point of view of JP dinosaur in movie is the furious-look like trex, and the majestic like rearing brachiosaurus.one of the dtf member said, it look like a mythcal creature, but i think that is what make this movie beloved 

[laticauda]

I am a little worried that the idea of having a new geneticly enginered dinosaur as the main antagonist came from focus group discussions.  From the trailor, it looks like they are trying to bring back the sence of awe and majesty from the original film.  But will it work, or will this turn into another dinosaur slasher film, were we are really not entertained, and our IQ's drop due to the plot. 

Please be good!!!!!

[Arul]

yeahh most of all the reason why someone or some group make a film is to get more profit by entertain the people. Like what you said, we can only hope that it will be working. But as you know the maker is steven spielberg 

[Hermes888]

http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2014/11/is-jurassic-world-stealing-from.html

What does he or anyone else want for the microscopic use of of a silhouette of your art, what 1:100th of a cent royalty does he think is fair?

He doesn't want royalties, he just wants the film industry to stop stealing the work of him and his peers. Using these shadows is stealing. Super simple stuff.

[Gwangi]

yeahh most of all the reason why someone or some group make a film is to get more profit by entertain the people. Like what you said, we can only hope that it will be working. But as you know the maker is steven spielberg 

Well as far as I know Spielberg is only the executive producer, the director is Colin Trevorrow who only had one film to his credit (albeit a good one). But Speilberg's involvement does not guarantee a good movie. He directed The Lost World (in my opinion the worst JP movie) and produced JP3 which was not very good either.

[tyrantqueen]

yeahh most of all the reason why someone or some group make a film is to get more profit by entertain the people. Like what you said, we can only hope that it will be working. But as you know the maker is steven spielberg 

Well as far as I know Spielberg is only the executive producer, the director is Colin Trevorrow who only had one film to his credit (albeit a good one). But Speilberg's involvement does not guarantee a good movie. He directed The Lost World (in my opinion the worst JP movie) and produced JP3 which was not very good either.

May I ask your opinion as to why LW is the worst? I personally think the third movie is the worst (NOT just 'cause the Tyrannosaurus dies, but for other reasons), but that's just my preference.

[stargatedalek]

I actually enjoyed TLW, I like how it managed to have sort of "political" (conservation) feel to it without becoming to preachy

[laticauda]

yeahh most of all the reason why someone or some group make a film is to get more profit by entertain the people. Like what you said, we can only hope that it will be working. But as you know the maker is steven spielberg 

Well as far as I know Spielberg is only the executive producer, the director is Colin Trevorrow who only had one film to his credit (albeit a good one). But Speilberg's involvement does not guarantee a good movie. He directed The Lost World (in my opinion the worst JP movie) and produced JP3 which was not very good either.

May I ask your opinion as to why LW is the worst? I personally think the third movie is the worst (NOT just 'cause the Tyrannosaurus dies, but for other reasons), but that's just my preference.

I actually enjoyed both LW and JP3, but that dosn't mean I think they were good movies.  LW was a movie were they tried to put in all the things they were unable to do or use in the first movie, and not even try to actually adapt the book.  One of Spielberg laziest efforts. It was all eye candy without substance.  Now JP3, I thought was better since it didn't try to be anything other than a simple action, adventure film.  Yes it still added things from the first book, like the Aviary.  Instead of making well thought out sequels, they just took the first movie and rehash some of it, add some big special effects, and presto you have the next JP movie. 

In JP3 T-Rex Spinosaurus fight, in reality, I think T-Rex would kick Spinosaurus Butt.  Only on dry land of course.  They should have made two versions like they did with Godzilla vs King Kong.  One version T-Rex wins, the other version Spionsaurs drags T-Rex under the waves.

[Takama]

. The two 2ndings to king Kong versus godzilla is not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkFm0FpT3R0&list=PLAAD30B9523D89FAA&index=3

As for the lost word jp.   It was my favorite dinosaur movie as a kid. And today it's my favorite jp movie

[Gwangi]

yeahh most of all the reason why someone or some group make a film is to get more profit by entertain the people. Like what you said, we can only hope that it will be working. But as you know the maker is steven spielberg 

Well as far as I know Spielberg is only the executive producer, the director is Colin Trevorrow who only had one film to his credit (albeit a good one). But Speilberg's involvement does not guarantee a good movie. He directed The Lost World (in my opinion the worst JP movie) and produced JP3 which was not very good either.

May I ask your opinion as to why LW is the worst? I personally think the third movie is the worst (NOT just 'cause the Tyrannosaurus dies, but for other reasons), but that's just my preference.

Sure! Firstly I should say that when I originally saw the movie in 1997 I loved it, but I was still quite young at the time. It's only been with subsequent viewing that I've decided it's the worst of the sequels. On the surface it seems better; a better story, great filming location, special effects on par with the original etc. etc. It's the main characters that bother me. The "good guys". They're very poorly written. Not all bad actors mind you, just bad characters.

Nick Van Owen really is an eco-terrorist. He and the other "heroes" basically decide that the freedom of the caged dinosaurs is more important than the lives of the people who have captured them and in setting the dinosaurs free basically condemn everyone to death. Everything that goes wrong in that movie can directly be linked back to the actions of the supposed good guys. Later he takes the bullets out of Roland's gun. Because again, the life of a Tyrannosaurus is more valuable than the humans he associates with? I'm all for conservation, and even animals rights. But extremists do no good, no matter what the cause and his character is an extremist. Roland even refers to him as "that Earth First bastard". For those not in the know, "Earth First!" is a very radical "any means necessary" group of environmental activists. The movie definitely deserved it's Golden Raspberry Award for "Worst Reckless Disregard for Human Life and Public Property".

Then there is Sarah Harding. Awful character, complete hypocrite. She reaches out and pets the baby Stegosaurus and within minutes after almost getting killed she yells at Nick for smoking and goes on a tirade about "observation without interference" and "if we so much as bend a blade of grass". Not that any of that stops her from trying to save a baby Tyrannosaurus inside the friggin trailer! They all deserve to die for that stupidity! And after the adult Tyrannosaurus clearly demonstrate their capacity for parental care, and she argues about how powerful their scent is she hangs her bloody jacket up inside her tent! Never mind that the smell of blood could attract any number of predators let alone the parent Tyrannosaurus. But yeah, she is supposed to be an animal behavior expert that does field work with African predators. Hang a bloody jacket in a tent in Africa and see what happens.

And then there is Malcolme's daughter. Enough said there.

And basically that's it. The characters. Few complaints beyond that. I hate the main characters and I hate being stuck with them when I watch the movie, especially if it is over 2 hours long. If you can't get behind the main characters, no amount of special effects will fix the movie. The most interesting and likeable character is the movie? Roland. We didn't get enough of Roland. And there are other flaws with the movie but I'll leave it at that.

As for JP3. I hated it the first time I watched it. I'm still not a fan but I respect that it didn't take itself too seriously (unlike TLW). It was basically a monster movie and it delivered well in that department. Plenty of dinosaurs, a short run-time, simple story and even some of the characters were tolerable. I especially enjoyed Grant's cynicism throughout the film and some of the witty banter between him and the other characters. And the kid actor? Not half as bad as Kelly Malcolm!

[amargasaurus cazaui]

http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2014/11/is-jurassic-world-stealing-from.html

What does he or anyone else want for the microscopic use of of a silhouette of your art, what 1:100th of a cent royalty does he think is fair?

He doesn't want royalties, he just wants the film industry to stop stealing the work of him and his peers. Using these shadows is stealing. Super simple stuff.

This !!! I am with Hermes here, I mean really...they did not even notify the guy they were using his work...thats beyond illegal, it is just plain rude. I do not think they get a pass and freedom to steal just because it is a major movie franchise. I think it was even said, if this were done in another type of artwork it would be considered a major case, but since it is paleo work it is considered fair play. Odd......

[brandem]

http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2014/11/is-jurassic-world-stealing-from.html

What does he or anyone else want for the microscopic use of of a silhouette of your art, what 1:100th of a cent royalty does he think is fair?

He doesn't want royalties, he just wants the film industry to stop stealing the work of him and his peers. Using these shadows is stealing. Super simple stuff.

This !!! I am with Hermes here, I mean really...they did not even notify the guy they were using his work...thats beyond illegal, it is just plain rude. I do not think they get a pass and freedom to steal just because it is a major movie franchise. I think it was even said, if this were done in another type of artwork it would be considered a major case, but since it is paleo work it is considered fair play. Odd......

I'm not saying the fact that they are a big film company protects them I'm saying the practice of de minimis use protects them, the artists literally have no claim against the movie, the website however, maybe,

And this applies  to all art not just paleoart, check out Sandoval v. New Line,

But I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on the internet.

[tyrantqueen]

The most interesting and likeable character is the movie? Roland. We didn't get enough of Roland. And there are other flaws with the movie but I'll leave it at that.

Roland was epic. Shame we'll never see him again since Postlethwaite passed away (RIP).

[Gwangi]

The most interesting and likeable character is the movie? Roland. We didn't get enough of Roland. And there are other flaws with the movie but I'll leave it at that.

Roland was epic. Shame we'll never see him again since Postlethwaite passed away (RIP).

I agree. There was a scene in JP:TLW where Roland is asked how he knows so much about the main base of operations or whatever on the island and he responds with "I've seen it" which really got me hoping when I saw it that he might have a more interesting back story and association with the island that might crop up in another movie. I guess not.

[laticauda]

. The two 2ndings to king Kong versus godzilla is not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkFm0FpT3R0&list=PLAAD30B9523D89FAA&index=3

As for the lost word jp.   It was my favorite dinosaur movie as a kid. And today it's my favorite jp movie

AWWW poop, you are correct.  Victim of a long ago disproved myth.  Well, Godzilla should have one that match, just like T-Rex, should have taken down Spinosaurus.