Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[Gwangi]

That genetic mutant thing actually does sound like a big reason not to watch the movie. For me, at least.

I responded to this post with two paragraphs of my thoughts but I don't see it. Did I really forget to click submit after typing that all up? Well here is a shorter version of what I thought....

These new details on the film do not impress me. While the original film had its flaws it was still a grounded sci-fi film that tried to bring us convincing dinosaurs using the latest science. What this looks like is another Hollywood cash grab and not the spiritual successor I had hoped we were getting. No to feathered dinosaurs but yes to gene splicing and trained dinosaurs? Sorry movie, it's not looking good. Strike 3 and you should be out, if this flops I hope no one will mess with the JP universe again. Lets focus on non-JP dinosaur movies please. Still waiting for a good remake of "The Lost World" or "The Valley of Gwangi".

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

Wow. I'm not at all liking the tyrannosaurus/velociraptor/snake/cuttlefish hybrid. However, if the filmmakers can pull it off well (though unlikely) this will be an awesome movie. IMO, I liked it better when we were seeing 'real' dinosaurs and not fictional creatures. Even the dilophosaurus' venom had fossils to back it up, as the novel said that it had a poor bite, even though I know it to be false now. At least we are kind-of getting a carnotaurus with its color changing ability... gotta look on the bright side. 

[SpartanSquat]

I dont mind the mutant dinosaurs. If we saw all JP dinosaurs are mutants. Look the Velociraptors: Hybrids between velociraptor and deinonychus (we know that was Paul fail), Dilophosaurus clamidosaur and Carnotaurus cuttlefish.
But the thing that has downed me is tamed dinosaurs...
We dont know what is that new dinosaur. I hope its a carnotaurus like in the novel.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

I am given to wonder why they always choose the most dangerous possible things to play with....why not experiment with a docile sauropod or duckbill if you wanted to play god? I guess the idea sells more tickets but does not require a great deal of imagination or creativity, like cloning a herd of mammoths to solve world hunger might. It just seems like cloning dinosaurs would already be tempting fate enough, without adding a killing machine just to sell tickets.

[tyrantqueen]

I'll admit I don't like the sound of this. I don't like the idea of tame dinos nor the gene splicing thing.

I won't form any opinions until the film is realised but I have to say I'm a bit disappointed hearing the news :/

[DinoToyForum]

Oh no, it sounds awful, just plain awful. Sigh. My hopes for this film have just plummeted. I only hope it isn't all true. I may have to remove my Jurassic World desktop. At least my worries about becoming too excited were short-lived.

[Gwangi]

The thing is, there are plenty of other real dinosaur species that could have been used as a new "bad guy". So many to choose from! Instead they're going the "Terra-nova" route and just pulling stuff outta their arse thinking it will sell tickets. It is the sort of stuff we've come to expect from Hollywood these days. Normal dinosaurs aren't good enough, it's gotta be a "Super ultra mega awsomebro! dinosaur!!!1!!! LOL"

[Takama]

I think we should of lost hope ever since the director said "No Feathers"

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

Even if they had to go with something totally made up, they could have at least chosen something cool from the Chaos Effect line.. This kind of animal will probably draw in no more people than a carnotaurus or eustreptospondylus, or monolophosaurus would. Universal's gonna patent it and package it, and slap it on a plastic lunchbox, and they're gonna sell it. Now if they were to create a flock of condors in this movie...

[Yutyrannus]

I think we should of lost hope ever since the director said "No Feathers"

Agreed.

[Balaur]

Wow! Really? That's the big new scary dinosaur? Really? Just plain awful... Lost my hopes a long time before when the no feathers came to attention. Not seeing it.

[Gwangi]

Wow! Really? That's the big new scary dinosaur? Really? Just plain awful... Lost my hopes a long time before when the no feathers came to attention. Not seeing it.

In the back of my mind I was hoping part of the reason for pushing the movie a year back was so they would have time to add feathers, maybe the backlash from the dino-community changed their minds. That's just wishful thinking though and these new plot developments don't seem to indicate a change in direction for more accurate dinosaurs. I'm still gonna see it though, even if it bombs.

[tyrantqueen]

[Yutyrannus]

Wow! Really? That's the big new scary dinosaur? Really? Just plain awful... Lost my hopes a long time before when the no feathers came to attention. Not seeing it.

Exactly. I actually wasn't planning to see it even before the no feathers thing, but now I'm almost definitely not going to.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I'm still a bit hopeful. Yes all the JP dinos are mutants, but they did the least they could to make something as realistic as possible.  In the novel they had snake like tongues, venom, ect..but they they didn't intentionally create something wrong for entertainment value. Which is what it sounds like is goign to happen in this film.  Other info on the new dino says it looks like a Masiakasaurus, and that it was the dominate species on the planet during the time of dinosaurs....now that is odd if this species was created by man.  Honestly I'm wondering if the reporter messed up his info and it's a dinosaur species that just has similar qualities to the animals mentioned.

In regards to the tamed dinos issue, zoos do " tame " their animals with regular feeding schedules and to make them easier to handle and deal with.  This new Park has been operational for some years in the universe canon so some animals may have developed something of a bond with their handler.  We really don't know what " tamed " means but as long as they aren't used as hunting dogs or something similar it could be okay.  Maybe they react to certain sounds or colors and the new dino is tricked into mimicking that..then it's attacked ?

[SpartanSquat]

I think we should of lost hope ever since the director said "No Feathers"

Remember this dude. Jurassic Park have its canon, explain why in 20 years velociraptor or tyrannosaurus suddenly have feathers. Science changed dinosaurs, but no in the universe of the movie. Thorne in The Lost World novel said that all our vision of dinosaurs or science its only theories that in 40 years probably will change, look Deinocheirus. When it was discovered, it was thought to be a simply giant ornithomimosaur and now its a strange chimera of duck, dromedary camel, sloth and ostrich. Or Therizinosaurus, it was thought to be a turtle rib! Imagine in 10 year how many things will change. The only way to see feathered dinosaurs in a JP movie its in a reboot of the series.
@Blade: I really like your theory, I hope you will be right dude. I think we didnt understand the word tame. Maybe they were reffering to other thing.
I expect a trailer in comic con, like Godzilla.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think we should of lost hope ever since the director said "No Feathers"

Remember this dude. Jurassic Park have its canon, explain why in 20 years velociraptor or tyrannosaurus suddenly have feathers. Science changed dinosaurs, but no in the universe of the movie. Thorne in The Lost World novel said that all our vision of dinosaurs or science its only theories that in 40 years probably will change, look Deinocheirus. When it was discovered, it was thought to be a simply giant ornithomimosaur and now its a strange chimera of duck, dromedary camel, sloth and ostrich. Or Therizinosaurus, it was thought to be a turtle rib! The only way to see feathered dinosaurs in a JP movie its in a reboot of the series.

Actually that's not entirely true.  In the first novel the plan from the beginning was to create dinosaurs and replace them with newer versions ala software revisions.  They'd already done it many times in the book as you can see the version number when Grant and the others are looking at the motion trackers. Wu in the novel even wanted to alter them further, make them slower, more docile and easier to control.

All they would have to do in the film is have a character explain they updated the " software ".   But. These dinosaurs from the film have a trademarked " look " to them that everyone knows is JP and that's what they want to see so that's really why no feathered dinos.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Couple more set pics :



If you look carefully at the back wall in the last pic you can see a lot of three fingered claw marks fro mthe beast that was in here..whatever the heck it is.  lol

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

This might be interesting.  JW.org decided to reveal some of the spoilers they apparently have (on their recent podcast) .

- The pics they seem to have reveal the map (from the Convention center pics from way before) and the listed attractions.

Under "Park Highlights" are:

- JW lagoon (with Mosasaur feeding show).
- Gentle Giant Petting Zoo.
- Golf Course.
- Aviary (with Pteranodon logo)
- Triceratops territory.
- T.rex kingdom.
- Pachycephalosaurus arena.
- Gallimimus valley.
- Underwater observatory.
- Egg spinner.
- Cretaceous cruise.
- Creation lab
- Water park.
- Gondola lift

** monorail crosses over the lagoon.

** Half of the island is fenced (possibly fences off the remains of the old park?)

[amargasaurus cazaui]

I was on the understanding this new feature takes place on an Island off of Florida, so I am unsure why there would be any old park or accomodations for such present..ie half the island fenced? The old park was an entirely different geographical location if I understand this all correctly. Unless this new spin is placed in some continuity outside the previous pictures or stories. Not sure there, but wondering.