Mattel, Jurassic World: The Fallen Kingdom toys - new for 2018

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

I'm wondering how far they'll go with the JP Legacy set. It looks like the dilophosaurus is a repaint of the JW:FK Attack pack figure (which I don't have a problem with). Would it be reasonable to expect the T. rex will be a color variant of the Thrash 'n Throw? Ideally I'd like if they did that and made a similarly-sized T. rex figure/modified T&T without the scars with colors more true to the original but at the same time I think we could also get a smaller one for the Legacy line.



Also in the photo are the Legacy Collection Pachycephalosaurus (which looks to be a unique sculpt), Alan Grant, and potentially "Velociraptor 2" unless that one's in the FK lineup and I missed it. Seeing that there are going to be two raptors in the Legacy set the second one could also be a TLW or JP/// raptor if this isn't it.

[MLMjp]

I'm wondering how far they'll go with the JP Legacy set. It looks like the dilophosaurus is a repaint of the JW:FK Attack pack figure (which I don't have a problem with). Would it be reasonable to expect the T. rex will be a color variant of the Thrash 'n Throw? Ideally I'd like if they did that and made a similarly-sized T. rex figure/modified T&T without the scars with colors more true to the original but at the same time I think we could also get a smaller one for the Legacy line.

Also in the photo are the Legacy Collection Pachycephalosaurus (which looks to be a unique sculpt), Alan Grant, and potentially "Velociraptor 2" unless that one's in the FK lineup and I missed it. Seeing that there are going to be two raptors in the Legacy set the second one could also be a TLW or JP/// raptor if this isn't it.

According to toy fair images and JPtoys the other two velociraptors apart from Blue in the attack pack FK lineup are the not so good looking green crouching raptor and this other raptor:


Now the grey raptor and that other green raptor shown in that group shot image could be from any other line, they could be from the legacy line, the battle damage...etc.
Also I am kind of curious about the Blue in that picture also. At first it may seem is the one that comes in the story pack with Owen due to her straight tail. But that figure had some HUGE that don't look as huge here, although it could be just a matter of perspective.

EDIT: Now I definitely thing they are different figures, the legs on the one that comes with Owen are more close thogether while the legs of the Blue figure in the group shot picture are more spread.

[Reptilia]

I think it is fairly reasonable to say that Mattel's the best JP toys manufacturer ever. They surpassed Kenner, while Hasbro was never a contender at all.

[MLMjp]

I will have to disagree. The more I keep comparing Mattel and Kenner figures, the more I think Kenner is still the superior manufacturer, Kenner´s smaller figures look better that Mattel´s Attack Pack figures. As cool as the two new T. rexes are, I still find more appealing the JP1 Red Rex even though Mattel Rexes have a better head sculpt, and lets be honest, you can't defat a "real feel" rubber dinosaur. There is something about Kenner that just says Quality. Mattel´s figures are definitely a great JP toy line, there are even some things that surpass Kenner. But in general terms I still think Kenner toys are better.

And this comes form a guy who was born in 1997, so he did NOT had a chance to enjoy those Kenner toys, does not have the Red Rex, and only has a few things he bough from eBay. So there is no Nostalgia factor to influence me.

Hasbro had the potential,they could have give us more things like the retooled Bull T.rex and the Dino-showdown Pachyrhinosaurus and Allosaurus, or their Pteranodons. But they didn't.

Hasbro, uh, uh, had their shot and JP fans selected them for extinction.

[Reptilia]

I had all the Kenner toys from the first movie, as I was a child back in 1993/94 when they first came out, so I have a lot of nostalgia for them and for the time of my life they characterized. But to be honest those toys were heavily stylized, as toys used to be at that time. These days toys are much more true to their screen counterparts in general, and I think this line by Mattel is a great example. As you pointed out, the T-Rex head sculpt is incredibly accurate to the movie, to the point that it rivals the latest Chronicles Collectibles statue, as far as fidelity to the original design goes.

[CityRaptor]

This reminds me of something I read on the 4chan thread with someone saying that JP is a greater toyline than TLW, and that figures like Snap-Jaw and Horn Head do not feel like JP...despite being closer to their movie counterparts.

Also, personally I consider the Real Feel Skin a bit overrated, especially since it has a negative effect on durability. And yes, I also was a kid back when JP came out.

They straight-up used the information for the Dimorphodon from ARK Survival Evolved in that last video. I'm screaming.

Well it is the first result when you search up "Dimorphodon" on google.

Like so many prehistoric animals. Which is kinda depressing. It's really annoying too, to filter out all that ARK junk when looking for something.

[stargatedalek]

I think it is fairly reasonable to say that Mattel's the best JP toys manufacturer ever. They surpassed Kenner, while Hasbro was never a contender at all.

I will have to disagree. The more I keep comparing Mattel and Kenner figures, the more I think Kenner is still the superior manufacturer, Kenner´s smaller figures look better that Mattel´s Attack Pack figures. As cool as the two new T. rexes are, I still find more appealing the JP1 Red Rex even though Mattel Rexes have a better head sculpt, and lets be honest, you can't defat a "real feel" rubber dinosaur. There is something about Kenner that just says Quality. Mattel´s figure is definitely a great JP toy line, there are even some things that surpass Kenner. But in general terms I still think Kenner toys are better.

And this comes form a guy who was born in 1997, so he did NOT had a chance to enjoy those Kenner toys, does not have the Red Rex, and only has a few things he bough from eBay. So there is no Nostalgia factor to influence me.

Hasbro had the potential,they could have give us more things like the retooled Bull T.rex and the Dino-showdown Pachyrhinosaurus and Allosaurus, or their Pteranodons. But they didn't.

Hasbro, uh, uh, had their shot and JP fans selected them for extinction.

I feel like in terms of design for the line as a whole, Mattel really can't be beat, even by Kenner. Kenner arguably had more interesting play features, and some of the individual figures are still a cut above Mattel's to be sure, but the designs were highly inconsistent and many just looked strange alongside the others. By which I mean Kenner did some creatures really well, and others looked like they were tacked on from other lines with entirely different art-styles.

Compare the Protoceratops, Herrerasaurus, Minmi, or Proceratosaurus from this line to the Coelophysis, Tanystropheus, Gallimimus, or Pteranodon from the Kenner lines. You could make the argument either way as to which are better in terms of production quality, but the Mattel "extra" species are definitely a better match for the counterparts in their respective line.

I think it is fairly reasonable to say that Mattel's the best JP toys manufacturer ever. They surpassed Kenner, while Hasbro was never a contender at all.

I would like to make the argument that Hasbro's JP/// pterosaurs have yet to be beaten. The Hasbro JW world pterosaurs and the original JP Pteranodon aren't even in the running, and Kenner's Quetzalcoatlus and (2nd) Pteranodon had some interesting play features, but the end result is clunky to use and prone to frustrations. I'm not sure if the Chaos Effect Ankyloranodon is best considered as a Kenner or Hasbro piece, but I would consider it to be on-par with the JP/// pterosaurs regardless. The Mattel Dimorphodon looks pretty good, but the Pteranodon's movement for the wings is somewhat off-putting.

They straight-up used the information for the Dimorphodon from ARK Survival Evolved in that last video. I'm screaming.

Well it is the first result when you search up "Dimorphodon" on google.

Like so many prehistoric animals. Which is kinda depressing. It's really annoying too, to filter out all that ARK junk when looking for something.

I don't see why ARK should be any more depressing or annoying than Jurassic World/Park, which would have otherwise been the first result. Even though ARK is a science-fantasy game first and foremost a great many of the creature designs are a measurable step-up from typical pop-culture examples in terms of accuracy and modern relevance. Barring some of the earlier additions to the game, ARK has done a commendable job of basing their creatures on re-imaginings of modern reconstructions of the animals, instead of basing them purely on tropes.

Not that I'm at all trying to defend that painfully lazy video.





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Hadn't seen this Pteranodon yet, looks like there are at least two sculpts (plus mini['s]), this one looks quite nice indeed.

[Simon]

The Kenner figures were on a larger scale, and, in my opinion, set the standard.  The Red TRex, Thrasher TRex and Bull "Gulper" TRex have not been surpassed - even by the new toys - which look very, VERY good, BTW.

The original JP Triceratops and JP II Stegosaurus likewise are easily superior to the Mattel versions (though the new Steg at least looks very good indeed).

Then there was the LARGE rubber Utahraptor with strike claw - none of these new raptors since then can compare to it (though the action figure mutant black raptor of the Mattel line is a toy in a league of its own, given the multiple articulation) ...

I could go on, but you get the idea ... the new Carnotaurus is very nice, but the JP II Carnotaurus is easily a better (and larger) toy ... and the rubber black and red Carno from JP is a sentimental favorite ....

Once again, I gives KUDOS to Mattel for its impressive new toy world/lineup.  Its the best since the first two movies ...

[Reptilia]

Both Carnotaurus toys from earlier lines present that heavy stylization I was talking about, just look at the head sculpt and you'll see what I mean. The new one seems to be pretty screen accurate. The Utahraptor was quite a good toy for the time, but again just look at the head, it is a cartoony / toyish stylization. Mattel's raptors aren't certainly at Rebor's level of screen accuracy, but they are the closest out of all the licensed JP toys.

Speaking of screen accuracy, here's a great work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VelpS1qL-Fw

[Appalachiosaurus]

They straight-up used the information for the Dimorphodon from ARK Survival Evolved in that last video. I'm screaming.

Well it is the first result when you search up "Dimorphodon" on google.

Like so many prehistoric animals. Which is kinda depressing. It's really annoying too, to filter out all that ARK junk when looking for something.

I don't see why ARK should be any more depressing or annoying than Jurassic World/Park, which would have otherwise been the first result. Even though ARK is a science-fantasy game first and foremost a great many of the creature designs are a measurable step-up from typical pop-culture examples in terms of accuracy and modern relevance. Barring some of the earlier additions to the game, ARK has done a commendable job of basing their creatures on re-imaginings of modern reconstructions of the animals, instead of basing them purely on tropes.

Uh, are we talking about the same game here? Ark makes Jurassic Park look like a documentary series by comparison. The Ark Dimorphodon has pennaceous feathers and a spike sticking out of its head for goodness sake! Also, the second result after the Ark website is the actual wikipedia article, not anything Jurassic Park related, so without Ark there people would actually get honest to god real information first and foremost.

[PumperKrickel]

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[tanystropheus]

I'm wondering how far they'll go with the JP Legacy set. It looks like the dilophosaurus is a repaint of the JW:FK Attack pack figure (which I don't have a problem with). Would it be reasonable to expect the T. rex will be a color variant of the Thrash 'n Throw? Ideally I'd like if they did that and made a similarly-sized T. rex figure/modified T&T without the scars with colors more true to the original but at the same time I think we could also get a smaller one for the Legacy line.



Also in the photo are the Legacy Collection Pachycephalosaurus (which looks to be a unique sculpt), Alan Grant, and potentially "Velociraptor 2" unless that one's in the FK lineup and I missed it. Seeing that there are going to be two raptors in the Legacy set the second one could also be a TLW or JP/// raptor if this isn't it.

Not bad, not bad at all. I'm curious what all these toys would look like after the Garrattization process...

[Reptilia]

Would you change any of them colour? I think they look pretty cool as they are.

[Cretaceous Crab]

My kids birthday is April 18th, so I'm just hoping I can snag that Mosasaurus as soon as they release.

[stargatedalek]

They straight-up used the information for the Dimorphodon from ARK Survival Evolved in that last video. I'm screaming.

Well it is the first result when you search up "Dimorphodon" on google.

Like so many prehistoric animals. Which is kinda depressing. It's really annoying too, to filter out all that ARK junk when looking for something.

I don't see why ARK should be any more depressing or annoying than Jurassic World/Park, which would have otherwise been the first result. Even though ARK is a science-fantasy game first and foremost a great many of the creature designs are a measurable step-up from typical pop-culture examples in terms of accuracy and modern relevance. Barring some of the earlier additions to the game, ARK has done a commendable job of basing their creatures on re-imaginings of modern reconstructions of the animals, instead of basing them purely on tropes.

Uh, are we talking about the same game here? Ark makes Jurassic Park look like a documentary series by comparison. The Ark Dimorphodon has pennaceous feathers and a spike sticking out of its head for goodness sake! Also, the second result after the Ark website is the actual wikipedia article, not anything Jurassic Park related, so without Ark there people would actually get honest to god real information first and foremost.

And no, I'm not expecting you to know which are new parts of the game versus which parts are from the games earlier development without knowing anything about the game, but I should hope people would try to know something about the game before constantly complaining about it. Look at any of the recent additions to the game, Yutyrannus, Troodon, Basilosaurus, Microraptor, Daeodon, etc., and compare them to Jurassic Park counterparts.

The JP Dimorphodon has a Tyrannosaurus head, humanoid pectoral muscles, and no soft integument at all. The ARK one may not be accurate, but I think it's fair to say that it's a completely unique characterization, rather than just being based on generic pop-culture pterosaur designs as the JP one is.

[ChrisLikesDinos]

Video review for the Carnotaurus... I'm loving this thing!

https://youtu.be/4uYPllZkWiE

[Primeval12]

HEre is a list of everything thats a normal toy

How much will the common indoraptor set me back?

[Brontozaurus]

They straight-up used the information for the Dimorphodon from ARK Survival Evolved in that last video. I'm screaming.

Well it is the first result when you search up "Dimorphodon" on google.

Like so many prehistoric animals. Which is kinda depressing. It's really annoying too, to filter out all that ARK junk when looking for something.
[/quote]

I'd really like to know what actual palaeontologists think of this. Because I'm writing a blog series about the different species in the game and let me tell you, anyone trying to look up information on Purlovia is screwed.

Also, the second result after the Ark website is the actual wikipedia article, not anything Jurassic Park related, so without Ark there people would actually get honest to god real information first and foremost.

There would also be less people looking for that information. I think it´s a good thing that Ark search results show up so prominently, since it indicates that there´s a huge interest in prehistoric creatures. Animals like Thylacoleo and Megalania are relatively obscure and Ark features them prominently, thus making them more famous. When I was young a lot of the information available was also inaccurate, but it only takes a little spark to ignite a passion for dinosaurs that lasts a lifetime.

Which is exactly the stance I'm taking in regards to ARK.

I've seen first-hand that this game has been igniting interest in palaeontology. When Thylacoleo got patched in, one video I saw had the two hosts talking about the actual animal as they went about taming one. And when I worked at a museum dinosaur event two years ago, there was a kid who played it and we talked about which of its creatures were in the museum collection; I went and showed him our Argentavis humerus because of that. The blog series I mentioned above started out because I saw so many people complaining about the game's designs without thinking about how we could take advantage of its popularity to educate people about the real life animals.

Just so we don't derail this thread too much, do we have an Ark thread somewhere we could take this to?

[tanystropheus]

Would you change any of them colour? I think they look pretty cool as they are.

I'm just curious if toys could look more like models with the application of superior colors (gradients, grittier color scheme etc.). Remember the Schleich Psittaco after the makeover?

[tanystropheus]

Video review for the Carnotaurus... I'm loving this thing!

https://youtu.be/4uYPllZkWiE

I don't generally purchased licensed JP toys but I might have to change my mind 
The action feature is really well implemented.