David Silva's Beasts of the Mesozoic: Ceratopsian Series - WAVE TWO SHIPPING!

[Faelrin]

Adult Triceratops here (give me a min to get my PC on and I'll add pics. Nevermind, Flaffy posted them for everyone. Look below!):

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/creativebeast/beasts-of-the-mesozoic-ceratopsian-series-action-figures/posts/2655880

I'm also very happy to hear Regaliceratops will be made regardless. Edit: And not a moment after posting this, it got funded now! That was quick!

[Flaffy]

Aaaaand Regaliceratops is funded!

New pics for the adult Triceratops:
Full gallery ~ https://creative-beast.com/ceratopsians/triceratops-horridus/

[LeapingLaelaps]

I'm going to get my hair cut in a bit so unfortunately I'll miss the big finale, but I just wanted to give a big thanks to everyone for keeping this thread going and posting pictures and update information when I've been unable to. This is the first time I've run a big thread like this and it was super fun, and unless someone beats me to the punch I'll be making a thread for the Tyrannosaur series as well, along with keeping this one up-to-date.

Thanks everyone and here's to an amazing Kickstarter!

[Andanna]

This was my first Kickstarter event and I admit it is addicting. Beats any sport event in my opinion.

[Ravonium]

This was my first Kickstarter event and I admit it is addicting. Beats any sport event in my opinion.

You and me both!

(If anyone hasn't gotten the memo, the campaign's ended)

[Shonisaurus]

It's majestic that BoTM triceratops imposes the figure. His painting is highly attractive and his sculpture is of unparalleled beauty. Magnificent paleoartist the sculptor David Silva of BoTM and even more his humility and simplicity as a result of his interview. On the other hand I celebrate that I have made two models, one larger and one smaller, many forum members (among whom I find myself) cannot afford to buy the larger one.

[Mellow Stego]

So I guess it ended with a total of $272,647 raised.
That's pretty good, right?


*Edit.  Well, the money I pledge was already taken out of my account. That was fast.

[suspsy]

I'm glad at how successful the Kickstarter was. However, I am also sad that my Spiclypeus won't be ready until 2021.

[Agen Kolar]

So I guess it ended with a total of $272,647 raised.
That's pretty good, right?

It's $122,647 more than needed to successfully back the project, so definitely good.

I think the concern, or at least my concern, is the number of backers - only 1,640 backers. That's 1,000 fewer than the raptor Kickstarter, and about $100,000 less, too. If Ceratopsians can't raise the same interest, I don't think we should hold our breaths for Hadrosaurs, Ankylosaurs, Stegosaurs, etc in the future.

Ideally I want to see every family represented. I hope we can continue to raise awareness so every Kickstarter hereafter is successful, too.

[Faelrin]

For the curious this was funded at 181% (the raptors were 281%), and over $35,000 was raised today in the final hours. Over 390 new/first time backers, with 1,250 returning backers (have backed a kickstarter before, not necessarily the raptor series). Kicktraq has more info on daily stuff (such as pledge totals, backers, etc).

I had an absolute blast checking the page daily to see the various updates and how much funding progress was being made, and I am beyond satisfied with how many we managed to get unlocked before it ended, even if it wasn't all of them (yet), as well as the fact all the packaging art was finished and revealed before the campaign ended, and all the sculpts were too, and only 3 have yet to be painted up.

[PhilSauria]

OMG!! - just saw images of the adult Triceratops - MUST HAVE.

Lord knows where I'll put it, but buy first then work that out later. At this rate I think all I'll be buying next year are Ceratopsians, my shopping list so far has the juvenile Triceratops, Styracosaurus and the Wendiceratops (possibly my favorite of the series, really like the colour scheme and that blue eye).

Wonder if David and his team will ever get around to Sauropods....

[stargatedalek]

So I guess it ended with a total of $272,647 raised.
That's pretty good, right?

It's $122,647 more than needed to successfully back the project, so definitely good.

I think the concern, or at least my concern, is the number of backers - only 1,640 backers. That's 1,000 fewer than the raptor Kickstarter, and about $100,000 less, too. If Ceratopsians can't raise the same interest, I don't think we should hold our breaths for Hadrosaurs, Ankylosaurs, Stegosaurs, etc in the future.

Ideally I want to see every family represented. I hope we can continue to raise awareness so every Kickstarter hereafter is successful, too.

I think after Tyrannosauroids the safe choice is to start going by region/formation. Some creatures could share parts with ones from previous campaigns with a completely new group or two for a given region. Big name favs like Tyrannosaurus and Triceratops could get releases in alternate scales or new colours, say as backer exclusives.

On that topic, props for keeping exclusives paint job only so far. Kickstarter just isn't fully accessible to everyone and international buyers could be upset if they were forced to miss out on a desired sculpt because it was an exclusive.

[suspsy]

So I guess it ended with a total of $272,647 raised.
That's pretty good, right?

It's $122,647 more than needed to successfully back the project, so definitely good.

I think the concern, or at least my concern, is the number of backers - only 1,640 backers. That's 1,000 fewer than the raptor Kickstarter, and about $100,000 less, too. If Ceratopsians can't raise the same interest, I don't think we should hold our breaths for Hadrosaurs, Ankylosaurs, Stegosaurs, etc in the future.

Ideally I want to see every family represented. I hope we can continue to raise awareness so every Kickstarter hereafter is successful, too.

I think after Tyrannosauroids the safe choice is to start going by region/formation. Some creatures could share parts with ones from previous campaigns with a completely new group or two for a given region. Big name favs like Tyrannosaurus and Triceratops could get releases in alternate scales or new colours, say as backer exclusives.

On that topic, props for keeping exclusives paint job only so far. Kickstarter just isn't fully accessible to everyone and international buyers could be upset if they were forced to miss out on a desired sculpt because it was an exclusive.

I think ankylosaurs would stand a reasonably strong chance of getting fully funded. Lots of genera in that family that are long overdue for representation in plastic form. Sauropods and ornithopods I'm not so sure about, sad as that is to say.

I also strongly suspect David will end up doing partially feathered and fully scaly versions of Tyrannosaurus rex. And perhaps Triceratops prorsus.

[PumperKrickel]

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[Ravonium]

Well, the Raptor Kickstarter was the first of it´s kind and it had far more species that have never been made as a figure before. Plus the prices were lower and some people might have chosen not to back this at all after it became clear that some very popular stretchgoals would not be reached.

I don´t think the interest was necessarily lower, I think some decisions Mr Solva made may have hindered the success of the Ceratopsians.

I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head as to why this campaign wasn't as successful. Price and size were obviously the biggest factors, but I think the relative lack of species that are unique or near-unique in the market (compared to the Raptor Series) is one that's been somewhat overlooked, and is a possible contributor to the perceived 'lack of interest' in ceratopsians beyond the particularly famous ones.

Apart from tyrannosaurs, the only other future taxonomic groups I could see raising as much as the raptor and ceratopsian campaigns are carnosaurs and maybe spinosaurs and ankylosaurs. Sauropods would be prohibitively expensive for probably most to buy, stegosaurs and pterosaurs would be significant technical challenges to make (this would likely increase their prices), and ornithopods, while seemingly a good choice at first sight, would be a longshot* due to many consumers not being interested in them.

*I do also think there's a small chance the attributes that make ornithopods a good choice will lead to them becoming a successful line (hence why I specifically referred to them as a longshot).

[Digibasherx]

I got all confused with the various packages and singles amounts.  I put in what I thought should include all of the ones I wanted (all of them, lol) but I hope there'll be room later to top up if I'm off by a few dollars.

[Bokisaurus]

Although not a big fan of the articulated figures, this series I was very interested since, well, its ceratopsians! It was fun and fascinating to watch the whole process.
If they become available, I'm sure I will get one or two... they are just so big and pricey!
Glad that the campaign was overall successful!

[Halichoeres]

People got bent out of shape any time anything about the campaign was changed. I guess I can't claim to know if particular choices hurt or helped the campaign, but in general I get the feeling he might have raised more money if people hadn't had alternate versions of reality in their heads, corresponding to earlier versions of Silva's plans. But I don't know, even though I was bummed he axed most of the basal ceratopsians, I still pledged for several figures. Maybe it's as simple as the price per piece being quite a bit higher.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with how the campaign went, and I think the backers should feel pretty good about it too. It funded a lot of molds, making future additions to the line that much easier.

[Dinoguy2]

Well, the Raptor Kickstarter was the first of it´s kind and it had far more species that have never been made as a figure before. Plus the prices were lower and some people might have chosen not to back this at all after it became clear that some very popular stretchgoals would not be reached.

I don´t think the interest was necessarily lower, I think some decisions Mr Solva made may have hindered the success of the Ceratopsians.

I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head as to why this campaign wasn't as successful. Price and size were obviously the biggest factors, but I think the relative lack of species that are unique or near-unique in the market (compared to the Raptor Series) is one that's been somewhat overlooked, and is a possible contributor to the perceived 'lack of interest' in ceratopsians beyond the particularly famous ones.

Apart from tyrannosaurs, the only other future taxonomic groups I could see raising as much as the raptor and ceratopsian campaigns are carnosaurs and maybe spinosaurs and ankylosaurs. Sauropods would be prohibitively expensive for probably most to buy, stegosaurs and pterosaurs would be significant technical challenges to make (this would likely increase their prices), and ornithopods, while seemingly a good choice at first sight, would be a longshot* due to many consumers not being interested in them.

*I do also think there's a small chance the attributes that make ornithopods a good choice will lead to them becoming a successful line (hence why I specifically referred to them as a longshot).

I think if the Tyrannosauroid Kickstarter does a lot better than ceratopsians, we're likely to see another theropod group next. Maybe allosaurids (not enough options among spinosaurids). Or if he wanted to go more obscure, oviraptorosaurs or troodontids.

I'd personally prefer stegosaurids, but I think that would have less appeal than ceratopsians.

[stargatedalek]

Don't underestimate how many general consumers were interested in the raptors. Now with the resurgence in JP merch that amount will have inevitably decreased.