Mattel--New for 2020

[Halichoeres]

Here's an interesting interview with one of the Mattel designers, along with some concept images:

https://jurassicoutpost.com/behind-the-scenes-look-at-designing-jurassic-world-dinosaur-toys-with-mattels-kristen-sanzari/

If I had an opportunity to interview Mattel about JW toys, the first thing I'd ask is if they plan to improve the cartoonish proportions. The enormous feet and the tiny tails kill a lot of otherwise great designs for me.

Seems like a good way to never get another interview with Mattel.

I have a feeling that Gasosaurus will be in Camp Cretaceous, and I think the reason it would be chosen over Yangchuanosaurus and Sinraptor (among other medium sized/Asiatic carnosaurs) would be for the sake of flatulence jokes.

I dearly hope so. Fart jokes, after all, are the very pinnacle of comedy. Perhaps after the Battle Damage edition, Mattel will make one with an embedded whoopee cushion.

[Appalachiosaurus]

To be honest, the only reason I knew about Gasosaurus before this toy was through laughing at its stupid name when I found it in a book as a kid. So hey, education through humor.

At least we probably won't see a Pantydraco.

[MoarCrossovers]

To be honest, the only reason I knew about Gasosaurus before this toy was through laughing at its stupid name when I found it in a book as a kid. So hey, education through humor.

At least we probably won't see a Pantydraco.

Don't jinx us.

[stargatedalek]

To be honest, the only reason I knew about Gasosaurus before this toy was through laughing at its stupid name when I found it in a book as a kid. So hey, education through humor.

At least we probably won't see a Pantydraco.

Don't jinx us.

If Camp Jurassic actually has the guts to go for gags like that while being a kids show I can't even say I'd be disappointed. While I wouldn't say this is an appropriate franchise for it; absurdist, distinctively adult (in a way kids wouldn't catch) humor can make kids shows surprisingly entertaining for adults (All Hail King Julien comes to mind).

Maybe have the female characters and the older male characters laugh whenever someone says Pantydraco, and the younger boys not get the joke, that kind of gag could work. Anything more would feel out of place.

Toilet humor though, that's just obnoxious.

My first thought at the idea of the show having a Pantydraco gag was "what if someone actually made what was essentially Archer with dinosaurs", and now I have to wonder if that's what the Chaos Effect show might have ended up resembling...



Back on topic though, I kind of like the cartoony style, at least it's consistent. The older lines had gritty, almost comic-book looking designs coupled with film accurate designs and far less finely detailed designs presumably based more on early concept art. Especially the first movies line. Just look at the Pteranodon, Dimetrodon, and the two Velociraptors, they each look like they're from a different toy line.

I wish Mattel would do more detached tails, the Roarivores in particular suffer from balance issues of stunted tails.

[Kotori_Sonoda]

I wish Mattel would do more detached tails, the Roarivores in particular suffer from balance issues of stunted tails.

But the roarivores are among the dinosaurs that do have detached tails.
I keep on hearing balance issues with the Ceratosaurus for example but mine stands fine. For now anyway...

[Faelrin]

For me the only theropod roarivore I have no trouble standing is the Baryonyx. All the others are top heavy, and the way the legs were sculpted don't seem to help with counteracting the weight from the electronics, etc. Although even my Dual Attack Allosaurus suffers from stability from the poor posing of the legs (and seems to have the same loose leg issue as my roarivore Allosaurus does, which also clearly doesn't help), as it doesn't have the extra weight making it top heavy. The only way I can get the rest to stand is by cramming them against each other. I'm really hoping the Cryolophosaurus and the other new species do not have these issues.

[Loon]

Apparently a Massive Biters Siats is in the works, according to this photo I found on Facebook:


Not a species I was familiar with tbh, but, it seems to be keeping up Primal Attack's trend of obscure, fragmentary species.

[suspsy]

Apparently a Massive Biters Siats is in the works, according to this photo I found on Facebook:


Not a species I was familiar with tbh, but, it seems to be keeping up Primal Attack's trend of obscure, fragmentary species.

Well, if this really is legit, then I guess that settles the identity of the large blacked out theropod in that teaser image. Still, more concrete evidence is necessary before Siats can be added to the list!

[Loon]

@suspsy yeah, I'm waiting for a reply from the guy with a link. The use of the full scientific name is a little suspect too.

A link has been found, from Amazon China:
https://www.amazon.cn/gp/switch-language/product/B07Y62KXFD/ref=topnav_switchLang?ie=UTF8&WDG=toy_display_on_website&dpRequestId=2K1J5783S6A0T8DVTZGX&language=en_CN

[Vidusaurus]

I'm honestly pretty surprised they went with Ornitholestes for the Attack Pack theropod. On one hand I'm happy that the species is getting its due recognition on the mass market (I can't think of another Ornitholestes toy produced at this level of distribution) but on the other hand it flat-out looks nothing like an Ornitholestes. There are other species with more history in the franchise (Coelophysis, Segisaurus etc.) that suit the look of the toy far better.

[MLMjp]

Collect Jurassic on instagram supports this identification: https://www.instagram.com/p/B4ObLQ4F5Ja/?igshid=ijbrocooxy4p

I'm both disappointed and relieved, disappointed because I wanted it to be a Carcharodontosaurid. But relived because that means I won't spend money on it. It is not a species that my Jurassic Park/World collection needs.

My regular collection of Safari, Collecta, Papo and such would welcome a Siats, though.

[Vidusaurus]

Here's my preliminary reactions to the confirmed figures from the silhouette photo, as well as my best guess as to what the unrevealed ones could be:

1: UNKNOWN. This pretty much has to be Majungasaurus at this point, or at least a similar abelisaur such as Rajasaurus. If the finished product looks as good as the silhouette I will be very excited.
2: UNKNOWN. This could be the Siats that was mentioned in the recent rumour/leak, in any case this is a large carnivore of some kind. The head does kind of look like a megaraptoran but those arms don't have enough bulk. If not Siats, it could be Carcharodontosaurus with a JWE colour scheme, or a Yangchuanosaurus.
3: EDMONTOSAURUS. This is probably my favourite (read: the most accurate) sculpt out of the new species, but the paint application leaves something to be desired. I'll probably still pick it up if I find it though.
4: UNKNOWN. This looks like it COULD be the new Ornitholestes or Gasosaurus, but the angle of the tail and the shape of the arms is off, especially for the Ornitholestes. There are 17 new species coming in 2020 compared to the 15 in the silhouette photo, so they could be the two species left off. If it's neither of them, it could be a small "hypsilophodont"-grade neornithischian such as Dryosaurus, Hypsilophodon or Elrhazosaurus, a small pachycephalosaurian (i.e. Stegoceras or Homalocephale), or, less likely, a limusaurine such as Elaphrosaurus.
5: SARCOSUCHUS. This one overall isn't terrible, not the most accurate and a bit cartoonish but it looks like it will have great playability.
6: ALIORAMUS. We haven't seen anything of this other than the small photo in the silhouette picture but from first impressions it looks decent. A very bold choice and I hope it turns out as good as it looks at this stage.
7: UNKNOWN. This is pretty much confirmed as a Scutosaurus, although we haven't seen anything of it other than the silhouette. Unfortunately it looks like they're carrying over the same anatomical mistakes Kenner made but it should be decent as a toy if not as a piece of paleoart.
8: CALLOVOSAURUS. A left-field choice but one with a long history in the franchise. The colour scheme is very blue but could be a good repaint candidate. You have to wonder if it was at one point going to be released as an Iguanodon given the fact that Callovosaurus is a dryosaurid rather than an iguanodont.
9: POSTOSUCHUS. Not the most exciting sculpt, very generic head and the blue colour scheme is a bit dull. Still somehow not the worst Postosuchus slated for next year, thanks Schleich.
10: UNKNOWN. This is very obviously a spinosaur, although which one in particular remains to be seen. Irritator and Ichthyovenator are the two main candidates. Looks decent at this stage and demonstrates that despite what the Fallen Kingdom Baryonyx might indicate they do know what spinosaur heads look like.
11: TARBOSAURUS. I do quite like this one despite first impressions, the colour scheme has grown on me and it is at least recognisably a tyrannosaur unlike last year's Albertosaurus. Another one I would get if I found it but Australia has notoriously missed out on a lot of the dinosaurs that haven't been in the movies (Monolophosaurus and Proceratosaurus being the only exceptions I've seen personally).
12: UNKNOWN. This is another one that could be either the Gasosaurus or Ornitholestes, with the latter being the most likely candidate. I was excited about this one before we found out its name, it seems like a similar situation to the Callovosaurus where a toy went through production clearly intended to be one species before a different name was slapped on it once it was finished to tie in to the rest of the franchise, in this case I would guess that this used to be a Coelophysis. Some people have said that this could be a Europasaurus but I don't really see this as possibly being a sauropod.
13: UNKNOWN. This looks pretty much identical to the Sinoceratops so I have no idea why it's in with the new species, although I guess it could also be something like a Centrosaurus or Spiclypeus.
14: SAUROPELTA. It looks a bit cartoonish but not too bad and it has a fun gimmick. Probably wouldn't get it at full price.
15: CRYOLOPHOSAURUS. Another of the new species that was saved from being the worst of its species this year by Schleich's awful offering. Not awful but not particularly exciting either and nothing really to distinguish from the other mid-sized carnivores other than its crest.
16 & 17: It's been confirmed that there are two other new species that weren't included in the silhouettes. Unless these are the Gasosaurus & Ornitholestes, the only reason I can think of that they wouldn't include them with the others is because they have something big planned for them, which to me screams film-canon species. The only two I can think of that haven't been included in the Mattel line yet are Apatosaurus and Corythosaurus, which I know a lot of people have been excited for. Other options could be Siats (if the big carnosaur in the silhouette picture isn't this), a large marine reptile such as Kronosaurus, or Utahraptor.

[AcroSauroTaurus]

Its definitely Siats.

[suspsy]

Its definitely Siats.

Where did you find this image?

Funny that Mattel is using the entire name.

[Loon]

@suspsy it's from Collect Jurassic on facebook

[Halichoeres]

Siats is an odd choice, but my compulsion for taxonomic completeness means I'll have to get it. Unless CollectA releases one next year also.

[Faelrin]

I was very bored so I decided to overlay some of the promo pics of the new species figures (or in the case of the Tarbosaurus and Cyrolophosaurus which came from their in package pics, which I erased everything but them), onto one of the silhouette images revealed back at SDCC. Pics came from both Jurassic Outpost and Collect Jurassic twitter, etc.

I also took that SDCC silhouette image and raised the contrast and brightness on it, and while it's likely a result of the image's compression, and the contrast, etc applied I was able to make out some interesting shapes to the two mystery silhouettes.

It is important to mention that the figures do not 100% line up with the silhouettes in terms of proportions, and even pose, as the silhouettes themselves are of concept art, and not of the final figures of course (aside from the fact some of the pics of the figures used were not taken at side angles, which can distort the proportions in comparison to the silhouettes, like with the Edmontosaurus image overlaying the silhouette of the concept art). This could mean those two mystery silhouettes do in fact belong to the Ornitholestes and Gasosaurus, even though the shape of the tails, etc are off, but until all figures have been revealed we won't know for sure until then. If however they do not belong to either Ornitholestes and Gasosaurus, then those would belong to the two remaining species which have yet to be identified, and at least it would certainly rule out Apatosaurus, and likely Corythosaurus, which is another film species sadly missing a figure thus far.

Of the ones that haven't been confirmed yet, they likely belong to Majungasaurus,  Scutosaurus, Ichthyovenator, and Siats, and lastly Sinoceratops, and I can only guess that is considered a new species here because the original Roarivores figure currently labeled as such was intended to be a Pachyrhinosaurus (and the mini figure still reflected that, in both color scheme and the name on the pamphlet), and was possibly changed due to direction from Universal to change the name and color scheme.

What has been confirmed thus far, and is easy to make out is Edmontosaurus, Sarcosuchus, Alioramus, Callovosaurus, Postosuchus, Cryolophosaurus, Sauropelta (somewhat), Tarbosaurus.

Here's the image with the brightness and contrast raised:



Here are the images of the figures overlaid on top of the unaltered image (quick edit: pics of Ornitholestes and Gasosaurus are at the bottom for completion sake and/or for folks to easily make comparisons with the mystery silhouettes):



Here is the same, but with reduced opacity on the Edmontosaurus, Sarcosuchus, Tarbosaurus, and Sauropelta to possibly help distinguish those mystery silhouettes better (give or take that the pics of the figures used do not 100% correspond to the silhouettes in terms of proportions and pose):

[Killekor]

Its definitely Siats.

@AcroSauroTaurus I can't see the image. Could you repost it in another way to make it visible to more people? Thanks in advance!

Killekor

[Faelrin]

Callovosaurus is an Attack Pack figure which has been found (and is being packed with Ornitholestes, repacked green Herrerasaurus, and the green Dracorex repaint):

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4VwJjrlidI/?igshid=y4pnlqqm7em5

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Vzd39lsQ9/?igshid=te1vf4sgm2pz

[Loon]

That was my friend Nick who found it, so now I gotta go out and see if there are any left at that store.