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PNSO—New for 2020

Started by suspsy, January 30, 2020, 03:22:45 PM

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#780
Honestly, I kind of like this Sauropelta. I wish it had a more of a wash to its body army, but other than that I like the colors. The side angle makes the figure look like its cramped up in a way? Not too sure how to word it, but I love the front camera angle (second photo). It is as if the animal is grazing. However, I am probably sticking to Safari's, this is not a bad figure, but due to prioritization, I am going to pass on this one.

Edit: The body armor I am referring to is the spikes. Not sure what they are exactly called, my bad.


Flaffy

#781
Did we reach a consensus on whether the PNSO or Safari depictions of Sauropelta is more accurate?

I couldn't find any conclusive evidence/arguments on the proper orientation of Sauropelta's large spikes. Or why Zhao decided to reconstruct the spikes on the lower row.


Dromaenychus

I like this sauropelta! I love the Safari ltd one, but I'll be getting this one as well.
It seems to be a reinterpretation of based on borealopelta. The classic description of sauropelta has the large spines pointed upwards, but these seem to have been found separately from the "mummified" armor, so the position was mostly inferred.
I found a blog post in Japanese that goes along those lines:https://getawaytrike.hatenablog.com/entry/38266016
I have not found any scientific literature about this though.

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Shonisaurus

avatar_postsaurischian @postsaurischian Thanks I have already ordered it! Magnificent figure.

Dinoguy2

Quote from: Dromaenychus on November 25, 2020, 04:08:27 AM
I like this sauropelta! I love the Safari ltd one, but I'll be getting this one as well.
It seems to be a reinterpretation of based on borealopelta. The classic description of sauropelta has the large spines pointed upwards, but these seem to have been found separately from the "mummified" armor, so the position was mostly inferred.
I found a blog post in Japanese that goes along those lines:https://getawaytrike.hatenablog.com/entry/38266016
I have not found any scientific literature about this though.

It's so weird that the assumption since the 80s has been top-position spines angled upwards. Even leaving aside Borealopelta, there are other nodosaurids (like Edmontonoa) which have the longest spine in the lower position and angled slightly downward. Based on this blog post, it seems everybody has been copying the original 1984 description by Carpenter, but he only has one row of spikes and incorrectly has the entire row in the upper position and angled up. As soon as the lower, double row was realized, it shouldn't have been too hard to figure out where the long spike goes.

But then again, paleoartists rarely pay any attention to the correct arrangement of ankylosaur armor.
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Sauropelta and all of the so far 2020 PNSO figures are on Dan's Dinosaurs as well!

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SidB

Yes, it's good to support Dan, a member of this community. I recently ordered the new PNSO Spinosaurus from him and look forward to its arrival.

Carnoking

I've got both the GR toys spino and PNSO spino coming from him. Very excited for both!

Flaffy


Takama

Damn it I was in the process of saveing those images to my computer to host them and share them to this Forum ::) :))


I havent Collected this line yet, but every new reveal makes it harder to resist temptation

ItsTwentyBelow

Man. These PNSO releases are so overwhelming. Really awesome stuff for the 1:30-1:40 scale range. I just wish they were more straightforward to acquire for a decent price! I do love their Spinops and aqua reptiles that I bought last year.

I at least need that Lambeosaurus and the Borealopelta (for now). And more space.

Looks like there's also a Sinoceratops, judging by that last pic! Crazy releases.

ceratopsian

Oh!  A dream come true for me.


Carnoking

A-Qi grew up, that's amazing! Wonder if the new T. rex will be named Aaron  ;)
And dang that Machairoceratops may be one of my favorites from their new lineup so far. Interesting how both Eofauna and PNSO have omitted "cheeks" on their calling ceratopsians. I'll admit I am woefully uneducated on such matters, but from a layman's standpoint it seemed to me that cheeks were the more generally accepted truth. Any insight?

Dromaenychus

I was wondering why do Pachyrhinosaurus instead of Sinoceratops. I'll definitely be adding Machairoceratoos and Sinoceratops to my collection. There's also an Edmontonia coming.
It looks like PNSO is replacing my Safari ltd dino binge this year since I'll only be getting 2 Safari ltd figs.

Bread

Wow! PNSO just keeps on releasing new figures. In the PNSO general thread, Edmontonia was also revealed. It is wonderful to see two more ceratopsians being released! Really liking these two over the pachy and spinops. Just waiting on the full pics of them now.

Faelrin

#796
So glad to see these as well as the Edmontonia. Man PNSO is really delivering on the long neglected genera front.


Edit: Saw that the Tyrannosaurus and some others were revealed. Not sure from where. Saw them in the group chat I'm in on instagram. The T. rex has feathers on its neck, and no lips (but well their Microraptor didn't either).
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Baby A-Qi all grown up within only half a year. Time flies!

Dusty Wren

All the PNSO releases in the last few weeks have been tempting, but that Machairoceratops is a must-have for me. Sigh. I need more shelves in my house.

Quote from: Carnoking on November 29, 2020, 05:20:25 PM
Interesting how both Eofauna and PNSO have omitted "cheeks" on their calling ceratopsians. I'll admit I am woefully uneducated on such matters, but from a layman's standpoint it seemed to me that cheeks were the more generally accepted truth. Any insight?

The cheek issue is a little fuzzy for ceratopsians. Mark Witton talks about this a bit in The Palaeoartist's Handbook, but the gist seems to be that some dinos were assumed to have 'cheeks' because their teeth were offset in such a way that it looked like the teeth were making room for soft tissues on the face. Witton points out that this isn't really good evidence, since some cheekless reptiles have offset teeth and some mammals don't. Without any solid evidence that Triceratops and friends had cheeks, I think some people are swinging back toward no cheeks.

Here's a good summary of the argument from an article published in 2019. Witton himself has been restoring Triceratops without cheeks for a while now (since at least 2017).
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Shonisaurus

The edmontonia for savings reasons I will not buy it, the sinoceratops, I will wait a few weeks and maybe after Christmas I will buy it (I will settle for now its Favorite counterpart) although I think this is even much better and bigger, but for me A must buy is the PNSO machairoceratops, it is a ceraptóside that I did not expect and that together with rubeosaurus, medusaceratops and of course kosmoceratops and chasmosaurus are one of my favorite ceraptosides. Bravo for PNSO! It appears that it does not require a periodic tax on DTF members. When will the three purchase links be available?

I honestly like the Sinoceratops and Machairoceratops better than their PNSO-brand Pachyrhinosaurus and Triceratops counterparts. Their paint colors are pretty conservative save for those beautiful little courtship badges they've put on their golas. Both licoriceratops and machairoceratops are totally very rare figures in the toy dinosaur market (I think it is the only figure of that species of ceraptoside available in the toy dinosaur market so far).

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