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David Silva's Beasts of the Mesozoic Tyrannosaur Series

Started by Faelrin, March 12, 2020, 04:42:51 PM

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Dromaenychus

Quote from: Psittacoraptor on October 18, 2021, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: Dromaenychus on October 18, 2021, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Psittacoraptor on October 18, 2021, 04:25:01 PM
Do we know how much prices will increase in the Backerkit?
I believe he said between $5 and $10 depending on the figure. Of course this is for preorders after the backer pledges are locked.
Then for retail I would expect another increase.
Thanks! That's not too bad. With the raptors the increase was more substantial relative to the price of the figures. Some went from 35$ on the Kickstarter to 50$ at retail. I don't know what the Backerkit prices were.

I'll be pledging for the Yutyrannus and the Dilong, then. Any later waves figures I can get on Backerkit.

If you pledge, anything you add in the Backerkit before the lockdown will be the same price as it is in the campaign. So you will have a couple of months, probably, to add figures at the lowest campaign price.

The price increases are for people who are pre-ordering, but not backers.


Psittacoraptor

The Albertosaurus looks great!

avatar_Dromaenychus @Dromaenychus Oh, that's even better! I want to see all the finished prototypes before deciding if and what else I want to add. Except the Gorgosaurus, that one is a lock!

Dobber

Well it's passed $485000 now but the Tarbo hasn't been unlocked. Must've just happened.

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Faelrin

I think the stuff on the campaign page has to be manually updated. I'm sure it will be in just a bit. I'll get the op updated in any case. Just the Moros and Albertosaurus left now! We can do this!


Edit: Campaign shows it as unlocked now and David mentioned in the kickstarter comments it is available to add-on now.
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Bread

That Albertosaurus does look fantastic; however, maybe it is just me but I can't have both Gorgosaurus and Albertosaurus. I always felt they were too similar in size and bulk.

I have to say, this may be similar to the ceratopsian series for me. The Triceratops looked the weakest out of the bunch, and seems like the Tyrannosaurus rex in this line seems to be outshined by all these other Tyrannosaurs. Not a bad thing at all, but just with the numerous figures we receive of that genus in a year and the ones coming up, I even decided to pass on the WWD and global release version. I am focusing on those we don't get as a figure often or at all.

Duck

A bit of a random question, but still related to this thread.
Does the new BotM Yutyrannus have accurate feathers?
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terrorchicken

Quote from: Psittacoraptor on October 18, 2021, 07:04:18 PM
The Albertosaurus looks great!

avatar_Dromaenychus @Dromaenychus Oh, that's even better! I want to see all the finished prototypes before deciding if and what else I want to add. Except the Gorgosaurus, that one is a lock!


me too, I really want to see what the Moros and Alectrosaurus look like! 

so for the Backerkit survey does anyone know if it allows you to use PayPal? I'm gonna pay my pledge with a 50 dollar visa gift card I received(I don't have a credit card) but that limits me to the smallest size add on figure range($32 like guanlong.) If I want to get the next size up(the 53 dollar range like dilong) I wont have enough in the card. Would I be able to change the add-on in the Backerkit and use PayPal to pay the remaining amount?


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Faelrin

avatar_terrorchicken @terrorchicken If I recall correctly David said in the kickstarter comments that it does. It's just kickstarter that doesn't for whatever reason.
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terrorchicken

^thanks,  I  recalled  something abut David adding the PayPal option for the Ceratopsian campaign but I wasn't sure where exactly, I know kickstarter still doesn't accept PayPal but wasn't sure about Backerkit.

I really like alot of those wave 2 and 3 $32-53 range figures but I agree with the other poster here who stated that having to wait until 2023 is kinda painful. Not sure if its better to just get a wave 1 figure now and get a wave 2/3 figure later in the pre-order store.

dinodamage

I'm really stoked the Tarbo has been unlocked! As far as nitpicks on accuracy I feel like the forelimbs should be a bit smaller, but I like the colors.

I'm gonna have to wait until I get all my wave 1 figures and arrange them before I make a decision on what others to get. I think the Gorgosaurus would contrast brilliantly with the T-rex but I'm also wondering how on earth I'm gonna manage shelf space with more than 3 of these bigger guys.

Quote from: Duck on October 19, 2021, 02:13:22 AM
A bit of a random question, but still related to this thread.
Does the new BotM Yutyrannus have accurate feathers?

I'm no expert, but from what the fossil evidence suggests it seems pretty accurate to what's been described. A covering of 'filamentous structures' found all over the body, arms, tail, feet and neck, being slightly longer on the neck than other areas. It's not know what kind of filament these structures were (simple or compound, broad or narrow), but as far as I understand this is pretty in line with most current interpretations of the animal.

So giving it a texture similar to an cassowary or emu is the best way to depict said filaments, hence the 'furry' downy look on the figure.

Faelrin

I saw this before I went to bed last night, but David added a link to the new Tarbosaurus gallery in the kickstarter comments:

https://creative-beast.com/1-18-tarbosaurus-bataar-action-figure-prototype/

I added some pics to the op already, but I'll add some below:







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suspsy

It really is a shame that the Tarbosaurus had to share a body with the Terrible Trio. It is the second or third largest known tyrannosaur, after all (Zhuchengtyrannus might have been bigger). Still, if it did have the correct proportions, it most likely wouldn't have been unlocked by now.

Also, that colour scheme contrasts wonderfully with the standard and Dino-Riders T. rexes.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

Duck

Quote from: suspsy on October 19, 2021, 04:13:05 PM
It really is a shame that the Tarbosaurus had to share a body with the Terrible Trio. It is the second or third largest known tyrannosaur, after all (Zhuchengtyrannus might have been bigger). Still, if it did have the correct proportions, it most likely wouldn't have been unlocked by now.

Also, that colour scheme contrasts wonderfully with the standard and Dino-Riders T. rexes.

avatar_suspsy @suspsy The terrible trio?
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Flaffy

Quote from: Duck on October 19, 2021, 04:15:03 PM
Quote from: suspsy on October 19, 2021, 04:13:05 PM
It really is a shame that the Tarbosaurus had to share a body with the Terrible Trio. It is the second or third largest known tyrannosaur, after all (Zhuchengtyrannus might have been bigger). Still, if it did have the correct proportions, it most likely wouldn't have been unlocked by now.

Also, that colour scheme contrasts wonderfully with the standard and Dino-Riders T. rexes.

avatar_suspsy @suspsy The terrible trio?

Daspletosaurus, Albertosaurus, Gorgosaurus.

I echo the sentiments of avatar_suspsy @suspsy too. I too wish Tarbosaurus got it's own unique body sculpt, which it could share with a potential Zhuchengtyrannus in the future.
The concern for not making a new body sculpt for Tarbosaurus was due to cost. However in the previous series, there was no such problem for the 1/6th Protoceratops and Psittacosaurus; both figures that consisted of completely unique parts from head to toe. I wonder if the sheer size of a larger body sculpt for Tarbosaurus was enough of a limitation to prevent its production, or if there were other factors to consider.

I guess on the bright side, with a smaller Tarbosaurus figure comes a smaller price tag. ;D

Duck

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Dobber

Quote from: suspsy on October 19, 2021, 04:13:05 PM
It really is a shame that the Tarbosaurus had to share a body with the Terrible Trio. It is the second or third largest known tyrannosaur, after all (Zhuchengtyrannus might have been bigger). Still, if it did have the correct proportions, it most likely wouldn't have been unlocked by now.

Also, that colour scheme contrasts wonderfully with the standard and Dino-Riders T. rexes.

I'll admit I thought the Tarbo was a larger species as well.

Also, to your second observation, I think that is one of the reasons why I don't like the Daspletosaurus as it reminds me of the standard Rex too much.

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stargatedalek

I don't see why Tarbosaurus couldn't have shared parts with the Tyrannosaurus instead.

Reuben03

Quote from: stargatedalek on October 19, 2021, 08:09:42 PM
I don't see why Tarbosaurus couldn't have shared parts with the Tyrannosaurus instead.
yes! I was under the impression that they are in fact, so similar that some consider tarbosaurus bataar to in fact be tyrannosaurus bataar!

"Some experts see this species as an Asian representative of the North American genus Tyrannosaurus; this would make the genus Tarbosaurus redundant. Tarbosaurus and Tyrannosaurus, if not synonymous, are considered to be at least closely related genera."
- (The Wikipedia Page for Tarbosaurus)


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Dusty Wren

David talks about his reasoning for not using the Tyrannosaurus body for the Tarbosaurus in his recent update. The gist is that because Tarbosaurus has a "lighter build" than Tyrannosaurus, the Tyrannosaurs body wouldn't work, and he didn't want to build a second 27-inch body just for Tarbosaurus.

I don't know enough about Tarbosaurus to say whether it did have a lighter build or not, but that's his stance. A couple of people have commented on the issue on that post as well.
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Faelrin

Edit: I see that has already been addressed by avatar_Dusty Wren @Dusty Wren earlier on, but I was in the midst of writing this an hour or so ago but got distracted before finishing it and posting it. I'll leave the rest below as is though.


David address the size concerns of the Tarbosaurus in the newest update:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/creativebeast/beasts-of-the-mesozoic-tyrannosaur-series-action-figures/posts/3334332

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At this point I must address the size of this figure. While Tarbosaurus is estimated to be between 33-40ft long, due to its lighter build, it would not have been compatible with the T. rex body. And giving it its own 27" long figure would have been a big additional expense, so I opted to share it with the other Body 4 figures: Daspletosaurus, Gorgosaurus, and Albertosaurus.

At this size it would represent a specimen of 30ft long, so if the size of the figure is a concern, you could refer to this a sub-adult.

It wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility to make a larger Tarbosaurus at some point later on, but for now this was the only way I could include this species in the line up.

WIP of the package art by artist Raul Ramos (who also did the sculpt):



First look at the wip Moros sculpt:



David also shares some wip paint progress for the Albertosaurus. He also explains he used the Tarbosaurus neck piece by mistake and has created a new one from both the Tarbosaurus and Gorgosaurus to be used on the final figure.

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