PNSO : New for 2023

[Over9K]

i want some animals completely out of line such as helicoprion or esp dunkleosteus, imagine a Anomalocaris, an arthlopleura, sea skorpions, ledsychtis esp as a hollow similar to the tylosaurus

PNSO just did a gorgeous Dunkleosteus, one of their all-time best, IMO.

[TheImmortalEye]

i want some animals completely out of line such as helicoprion or esp dunkleosteus, imagine a Anomalocaris, an arthlopleura, sea skorpions, ledsychtis esp as a hollow similar to the tylosaurus

PNSO just did a gorgeous Dunkleosteus, one of their all-time best, IMO.

I phrasef it badly, i mean dunkleosteus as an example what i want, more prehistoric random animals, more fish or arthropods.

[SRF]

Since June has started, I wondered if anything is known on when the next big sale on AliExpress is going to start? Patience is a virtue but I'm almost willing to pay the full price for Cameron if it's not part of the next sale, although I do hope to get it for cheaper than its current price.

[Medzo]

Since June has started, I wondered if anything is known on when the next big sale on AliExpress is going to start? Patience is a virtue but I'm almost willing to pay the full price for Cameron if it's not part of the next sale, although I do hope to get it for cheaper than its current price.

I'm pretty sure it will be omitted initially. Just hold your wallet brother 

[CARN0TAURUS]

Back in post #774 of this thread I posted concern over what looks like the rather large space between Cameron's arms.  Nobody responded to that observation, perhaps everyone is too excited over the release to talk about something that would seem like a criticism.  Then I remembered reading something about how "Sue" had been initially displayed improperly without her gastralia and with a much wider space between her arms.  When they created her new display they corrected the issue of the distance between arms, added the gastralia, and also put her leg in a more accurate pose.  Is it possible that PNSO used the old "Sue" display to model the chest area on Cameron?

I am not interested in tearing down Cameron, I'm buying the figure and I love most everything about this figure.  But I just can't ignore what area, it really stands out to me.  Perhaps PNSO in their desire to make the figure as bulky as possible might have overdone the chest area?  Someone posted side by side comparisons with the BotM figure from the front and the BotM T-rex is bulky too, but its arms are modeled with the "newer" correct positioning of the arms.  It's not a small difference, the distance between Cameron's arms and the BotM figure is almost double just from looking at the image.  Obviously I don't have any measurements...

[Halichoeres]

Back in post #774 of this thread I posted concern over what looks like the rather large space between Cameron's arms.  Nobody responded to that observation, perhaps everyone is too excited over the release to talk about something that would seem like a criticism.  Then I remembered reading something about how "Sue" had been initially displayed improperly without her gastralia and with a much wider space between her arms.  When they created her new display they corrected the issue of the distance between arms, added the gastralia, and also put her leg in a more accurate pose.  Is it possible that PNSO used the old "Sue" display to model the chest area on Cameron?

I am not interested in tearing down Cameron, I'm buying the figure and I love most everything about this figure.  But I just can't ignore what area, it really stands out to me.  Perhaps PNSO in their desire to make the figure as bulky as possible might have overdone the chest area?  Someone posted side by side comparisons with the BotM figure from the front and the BotM T-rex is bulky too, but its arms are modeled with the "newer" correct positioning of the arms.  It's not a small difference, the distance between Cameron's arms and the BotM figure is almost double just from looking at the image.  Obviously I don't have any measurements...

Well, if PNSO is smart, they'll always hold back from making a T. rex too perfect, so that they can release a new and improved one two years later and reap another windfall. I definitely won't buy this one, if I'm going to spend $75 on a Tyrannosaurus, it had better be perfect.

[Medzo]

... if I'm going to spend $75 on a Tyrannosaurus, it had better be perfect.

[CARN0TAURUS]

Back in post #774 of this thread I posted concern over what looks like the rather large space between Cameron's arms.  Nobody responded to that observation, perhaps everyone is too excited over the release to talk about something that would seem like a criticism.  Then I remembered reading something about how "Sue" had been initially displayed improperly without her gastralia and with a much wider space between her arms.  When they created her new display they corrected the issue of the distance between arms, added the gastralia, and also put her leg in a more accurate pose.  Is it possible that PNSO used the old "Sue" display to model the chest area on Cameron?

I am not interested in tearing down Cameron, I'm buying the figure and I love most everything about this figure.  But I just can't ignore what area, it really stands out to me.  Perhaps PNSO in their desire to make the figure as bulky as possible might have overdone the chest area?  Someone posted side by side comparisons with the BotM figure from the front and the BotM T-rex is bulky too, but its arms are modeled with the "newer" correct positioning of the arms.  It's not a small difference, the distance between Cameron's arms and the BotM figure is almost double just from looking at the image.  Obviously I don't have any measurements...

Well, if PNSO is smart, they'll always hold back from making a T. rex too perfect, so that they can release a new and improved one two years later and reap another windfall. I definitely won't buy this one, if I'm going to spend $75 on a Tyrannosaurus, it had better be perfect.

@Halichoeres
Concavenator posted this image on post #865 page 44 of this thread, I think he credited Paleofiguras as the source of the image.

On this image it is clear that the space between the base of the arms on Cameron is a LOT wider than on the BotM figure.  The BotM figure is bulky too, I would say it leans towards the newer heavier interpretations of T-rex.  BUT the chest area tapers at what could be described as the shoulders, it basically gets narrower towards the base of the arms.  That doesn't seem to be the case with Cameron.  And the more I look at the images the stranger and stranger that part of his body looks to me.

I don't have a good photo editor and just used something already on my device but although it's crude you can see how I tried to highlight the difference in the spacing using a green and red marker.  Notice I didn't go all the way to the arm on the left side of both figures as the tool was difficult to work with, but you guys get the idea.

[CARN0TAURUS]

To my eye it looks like the base of the arms were modeled too far back and outside.  They needed to have been thrust a bit forward and inward and closer together.  Is the new bluerhino reconstruction, the one with the prey in it's mouth,  built this way too?

[Fembrogon]

The Blue Rhino model:


The current Sue mount:


*shrug*

[Bread]

@Fembrogon I believe the Blue Rhino model takes into consideration Sue's dislocated arms. I believe I read somewhere that Sue possibly had her arms ripped out of place at some point in her life. (I could be wrong).

I think Mark Witton's assessment regarding BOTM's Tyrannosaurus really highlights how it is the most accurate. Even noting that it is the more realistic interpretation and assumption to consider that not all Tyrannosaurus were built like Sue. And Cameron is based on Sue. Edit: This paragraph is in regards to robustness.

[KeU]

Not sure if it makes the arms appear wider. Zhao Chuang did mention in the PNSO videos that part of the humerus is buried in the chest muscles.

[TheImmortalEye]

Since June has started, I wondered if anything is known on when the next big sale on AliExpress is going to start? Patience is a virtue but I'm almost willing to pay the full price for Cameron if it's not part of the next sale, although I do hope to get it for cheaper than its current price.

https://promossale.com/aliexpress-sale-dates-2023/
heres an overview

[Brontozaurus]

I like the hats, and I own and wear a lot of hats. I never leave my house without a hat on. The two on the end look great but I'm not seeing anything interesting about the other two.

The first two have a T. rex and Triceratops skulls on the brim. It's impossible to see them clearly on that promo photo, but they uploaded some more pictures to Facebook and they actually look pretty cool - they're apparently reflective so they catch the light.

...I actually really want them. Where do you buy them?

[ceratopsian]

They are already up on the official PNSO store on AliExpress @Brontozaurus.  Price is £33.10 (but sundry discounts available).

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005644613771.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allProduct.8148356.41.2d6f396f64NBX7&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21GBP%21%EF%BF%A133.10%21%EF%BF%A133.10%21%21%21%21%21%40211b88ec16859615347587983e8b71%2112000033863743869%21sh%21UK%213166597368

I like the hats, and I own and wear a lot of hats. I never leave my house without a hat on. The two on the end look great but I'm not seeing anything interesting about the other two.

The first two have a T. rex and Triceratops skulls on the brim. It's impossible to see them clearly on that promo photo, but they uploaded some more pictures to Facebook and they actually look pretty cool - they're apparently reflective so they catch the light.

...I actually really want them. Where do you buy them?

[Halichoeres]

... if I'm going to spend $75 on a Tyrannosaurus, it had better be perfect.

You're right of course! But I prefer figures to lack knowable errors if possible. Especially something as oversaturated as T. rex. If I'm being honest, I'm looking for any excuse not to buy another rex; to me, buying one just makes the overall prehistoric figure market worse.

[Medzo]

If I'm being honest, I'm looking for any excuse not to buy another rex; to me, buying one just makes the overall prehistoric figure market worse.

I understand this notion. For PNSO's defense, they're not just a company that keeps milking the Rex in an unacceptable way. This remake was very anticipated and it is just a fitting element of the huge collection of their previous releases.

Eofauna's attempt on the other hand is a much more boring move in this aspect. Tons of other genera that they could've presented but they went for the more secure money grab. IMHO.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

If I'm being honest, I'm looking for any excuse not to buy another rex; to me, buying one just makes the overall prehistoric figure market worse.

I understand this notion. For PNSO's defense, they're not just a company that keeps milking the Rex in an unacceptable way. This remake was very anticipated and it is just a fitting element of the huge collection of their previous releases.

Eofauna's attempt on the other hand is a much more boring move in this aspect. Tons of other genera that they could've presented but they went for the more secure money grab. IMHO.

I can't fault a company for doing what it has to in order to stay in business.  Eofauna doesn't produce a lot of volume so they might need a financial boost?

[Joel1905]

Back in post #774 of this thread I posted concern over what looks like the rather large space between Cameron's arms.  Nobody responded to that observation, perhaps everyone is too excited over the release to talk about something that would seem like a criticism.  Then I remembered reading something about how "Sue" had been initially displayed improperly without her gastralia and with a much wider space between her arms.  When they created her new display they corrected the issue of the distance between arms, added the gastralia, and also put her leg in a more accurate pose.  Is it possible that PNSO used the old "Sue" display to model the chest area on Cameron?

I am not interested in tearing down Cameron, I'm buying the figure and I love most everything about this figure.  But I just can't ignore what area, it really stands out to me.  Perhaps PNSO in their desire to make the figure as bulky as possible might have overdone the chest area?  Someone posted side by side comparisons with the BotM figure from the front and the BotM T-rex is bulky too, but its arms are modeled with the "newer" correct positioning of the arms.  It's not a small difference, the distance between Cameron's arms and the BotM figure is almost double just from looking at the image.  Obviously I don't have any measurements...

Well, if PNSO is smart, they'll always hold back from making a T. rex too perfect, so that they can release a new and improved one two years later and reap another windfall. I definitely won't buy this one, if I'm going to spend $75 on a Tyrannosaurus, it had better be perfect.

@Halichoeres
Concavenator posted this image on post #865 page 44 of this thread, I think he credited Paleofiguras as the source of the image.

On this image it is clear that the space between the base of the arms on Cameron is a LOT wider than on the BotM figure.  The BotM figure is bulky too, I would say it leans towards the newer heavier interpretations of T-rex.  BUT the chest area tapers at what could be described as the shoulders, it basically gets narrower towards the base of the arms.  That doesn't seem to be the case with Cameron.  And the more I look at the images the stranger and stranger that part of his body looks to me.

I don't have a good photo editor and just used something already on my device but although it's crude you can see how I tried to highlight the difference in the spacing using a green and red marker.  Notice I didn't go all the way to the arm on the left side of both figures as the tool was difficult to work with, but you guys get the idea.

It's fine. If you look at the arms carefully, it's clear that at least a quarter of the humerus is buried in the chest muscles/fat.

[TheImmortalEye]

If I'm being honest, I'm looking for any excuse not to buy another rex; to me, buying one just makes the overall prehistoric figure market worse.

I understand this notion. For PNSO's defense, they're not just a company that keeps milking the Rex in an unacceptable way. This remake was very anticipated and it is just a fitting element of the huge collection of their previous releases.

Eofauna's attempt on the other hand is a much more boring move in this aspect. Tons of other genera that they could've presented but they went for the more secure money grab. IMHO.

no offense n but i kinda feel thats very biased, i agree cameron would come sooner or later, the main reason he soured the tastebuds of many is that he came right after the wave of theropods , aswell as a maybe cinical opinion that he came right after a ceo was announced, and suddenly a new rex and a bunch of random products.

eofauna basicly has no reason not to do a rex, unlike pnso they dont release each few months, every release has to count in terms of sales or the figure part of the company is done for, so it makes sense to avvoid shelfwarmers or less desirable figures for the super duperpopular once ( even then they made atlassaurus)

u hold these as equal standards but theire not really. eofauna is small sideproject of a research foundation and the sales of the figures come second, pnso is a chinese based company made to get money first and foremost ,its why they now have a ceo to increase sales and cut out nonsellers-