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PNSO: New for 2022

Started by Renecito, January 05, 2022, 12:00:59 PM

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Quote from: Bread on March 18, 2022, 02:48:39 PM
With this set being a museum line product, I'm going to safely assume the rumored Acrocanthosaurus will be a museum line product, too.

I am disappointed in the route PNSO are going with the continuous Museum Line releases. Too expensive for me to keep up...

You could well be right about the Acrocanthosaurus. On the other hand it doesn't make sense to me to release the Acrocanthosaurus in the Museum Line when probably more popular species like Tarbosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus are in the Prehistoric Animal Models line. If PNSO aims to release their bigger figures solely in the Museum Line, than it would be logical to release the Zhuchentyrannus in that line. So hopefully there's  still a chance for the Acrocanthosaurus to be released in the standard line as well.
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Carnoking

Of the 24 figures PNSO put out in 2021, 17 were from the Prehistoric Animal Line and only seven were Museum Line (one of which was a repaint). I imagine to keep the ML "premium" they do less of it so the releases feel more "special". But if that's the case, this Torosaurus actually splits the 2022 offerings so far right down the middle with three Museum Line nearly in a row and three Prehistoic Animal line offerings. The fact that they closed out 2021 with two successive ML offerings really makes it feel like they're going hard with the line at the moment. It will be interesting to see what they decide for the other two leaked species but I'm crossing my fingers it will be Prehistoric.

Psittacoraptor

If the Torosaurus set lives up to the prototype in terms of paint application, I will buy it. I love the frill and the baby is just precious. I agree with avatar_ceratopsian @ceratopsian about the mouth, though. It looks awkward, mostly when it's closed. However, opened it looks really good to me, and that's how I would display the model. I hope the Tsintaosaurus base was a one-off experiment, and they'll stick to babies or skulls as museum line pack-ins in the future.

While I understand the concerns about pricing, I doubt anything will change on that front anytime soon. Collectibles in general have gotten more expensive, which perhaps results in less people buying them. The pandemic and recent geopolitical events have caused international transportation costs to explode, and production in China was affected by factory downtimes and lockdowns. All that certainly plays a role in pricing. Maybe that's why we're seeing more museum line releases. I'd love more minis, for example, but given how cheap they are I doubt much money is to be made with them.

I definitely picked a bad time to get into this hobby last year. At least I got to experience the last few of months of low-priced PNSO figures! I do suspect at least some models were underpriced by third party sellers. For example, their hadrosaurs were sold for less than most Collecta's Deluxe line figures, despite being noticeably superior in sculpt and paint detail and coming in a box with a booklet. I guess that wasn't sustainable.

SidB

Quote from: ceratopsian on March 18, 2022, 03:22:08 PM
Ceratopsians are my thing. Nice to have the baby. I don't have a problem with sometimes buying more expensive models. However the articulated jaw makes the mouth look very awkward. I'll have to consider this and think about display angles....
I display Doyle with his trap shut and no doubt I'll do the same with the Toro. A closed mouth often works best for some folks and here's another application for the principle.
Appreciate the accompanying baby, PNSO has found a way to continue the minis, I suppose.

Ivántirrophus

I tought PNSO assumed that Triceratops and Torosaurus were the same animal with 2021 Doyle  :o

suspsy

The more I look at that mouth, the less I like it.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

Dusty Wren

Quote from: suspsy on March 18, 2022, 08:36:24 PM
The more I look at that mouth, the less I like it.

Yeah, I can't quite put my finger on what bugs me about it, because normally I don't mind cheekless ceratopsians. I have PNSO's Machairoceratops and Eofauna's Trike and I like both of them, and Doyle's cheekless face didn't bother me. But this one...maybe it's the sheer length of it. It almost looks like there isn't enough muscle to close that huge mouth. Plus, the mouth tissues seem to have a more pinkish color to them than Doyle's did, which is unnerving.
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ceratopsian

Yes, I think the sheer length has a lot to do with it, at least for me.

Quote from: Dusty Wren on March 18, 2022, 08:52:04 PM
Quote from: suspsy on March 18, 2022, 08:36:24 PM
The more I look at that mouth, the less I like it.

Yeah, I can't quite put my finger on what bugs me about it, because normally I don't mind cheekless ceratopsians. I have PNSO's Machairoceratops and Eofauna's Trike and I like both of them, and Doyle's cheekless face didn't bother me. But this one...maybe it's the sheer length of it. It almost looks like there isn't enough muscle to close that huge mouth. Plus, the mouth tissues seem to have a more pinkish color to them than Doyle's did, which is unnerving.

paintingdinos



This is the bit that's bothering me. Maybe its just an odd angle but having a big cavity there feels off. I recognize there has to be a seam for the articulation, but why the big indent?

Very cool looking figure otherwise.

Gwangi

The cheekless mouth I can look past, it's that the jaw is articulated so it has that obvious seam all the way around it, I can't reconcile with that. It looks like a Canadian from South Park. I didn't like it on Doyle either but it seems more obnoxious here.

Mattyonyx

Quote from: Ivántirrophus on March 18, 2022, 07:41:10 PM
I tought PNSO assumed that Triceratops and Torosaurus were the same animal with 2021 Doyle  :o

Actually, they stated the opposite. In this video, ZHAO Chuang talked about AMNH 5116 and the controversy about it being a Torosaurus or a Triceratops, which means they see them as separate genera.

https://youtu.be/7ndcl0n12OA?t=834

KrazyKaprosuchus

Quote from: Ivántirrophus on March 18, 2022, 07:41:10 PM
I tought PNSO assumed that Triceratops and Torosaurus were the same animal with 2021 Doyle  :o
The specimen the 2021 Doyle was based on was interpereted as a Triceratops by them (although i'm not so sure about that...)

Skorpio V.

The articulated jaw doesn't bother me too much, having collected human action figures their seams are horrendous relative to this. I kinda like how his maw looks kinda snappy with its thinness.

Most off-putting about it, for me, is how brittle-looking the frill is. Minor issue though.

Torosaurus is easily among my top 3 ceratopsian genera, and this finally fills a role for the definitive figure of it outside of the much larger BotM one!
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Shadowknight1

Quote from: Faelrin on March 18, 2022, 03:19:24 PM
I like it but still want to wait and see the final paint apps on it. I do like that it comes with a baby though. That was unexpected. Like folks have been saying it helps give more substance for the cost. I hope if the Acrocanthosaurus is a museum line figure it comes with a baby too.
I would be okay with that.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

Concavenator

That Torosaurus is amazing! I don't have a problem with the mouth nor with cheekless ornithischians, they look fine to me. Too bad it will be a ML figure, though...

Quote from: Faelrin on March 18, 2022, 03:19:24 PM
I hope if the Acrocanthosaurus is a museum line figure it comes with a baby too.

I doubt it will be a museum line figure. I had expected the Toro to be a standard line figure, but they probably wanted to release it under the museum line with the excuse of Wilson and Doyle being from that line.

Over9K

On the Torosaurus, I'm kinda surprised they chose to hinge the lower jaw when it looks like hinging the skull would have eliminated the gap at the throat, and hidden the hinge better.

Mellow Stego

Im Loving the Torosaurus! If I had to nick pick my only problem would be the conservative paint schemes on these ceratopsians.
While I wouldn't want some exotic paint style like we have on the BOTM ceratopsians. I would like some splash of color.
I hope we see PNSO make a Pentaceratops.
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CARN0TAURUS

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Quote from: CARN0TAURUS on March 10, 2022, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: Concavenator on March 10, 2022, 04:12:37 PM
Quote from: Duck on March 10, 2022, 03:20:23 PM
The next figure could be revealed any day now I think.

I've noticed they tend to make these announcements on mondays, thursdays, fridays and sundays. Also it looks like they don't announce a new figure until the previous one is available from all their shops.

I don't know why, but I have a feeling the next reveal will be the Sinraptor and the Acrocanthosaurus will be the last, probably after the Torosaurus.

Hopefully all three of those end up in the prehistoric line, but I doubt it. The triceratops was going to be my first museum line purchase and I really wanted the skull.  But then I started really really looking at it and I was finding that I disliked more things about it than I actually liked and I just couldn't pull the trigger.  Something tells me that the Torosaurus will be a museum line piece and that's okay, as long as I like it and it doesn't have a movable jaw, IT might become my first museum line piece. And they don't need to add a skull although that would be much preferred over the base that Tsintaosaurus got.  The Arcocanthosaurus would have to be terrible for me not to get it and that's highly unlikely.  At some point I'll be forced to shell out that $70 because I can't resist those theropods.  The Sinraptor will probably be a big overscale like Domingo and A-Shu.  Unlike those two tho it should have the new skin look and hopefully the camouflage pattern will be interesting.  I'm already considering buying A-Shu so the Sinraptor might push me over the edge and then I'd have the pair to display together.

Sorry guys, looks like I jinxed it, museum line it is...

I really really really dislike the movable jaws, the centrosaurus and styracosaurus don't even have their mouths open and they are fantastic looking figures, I have the styracosaurus and don't have the centrosaurus but I plan to get it. 

Outside of the movable jaw...why does the face look so long and disproportionate?   Their very own images and cutaways show the length of the skull being mostly due to the huge frill, on this model the area from the base of the horns to the tip of the beak looks really elongated and stretched out.  Is that how torosaurus is supposed to look?

Here in the two bottom images the actual head looks much shorter with the frill being really long.  On the actual model the "head" (from beak to base of horns) appears to be about half the total length of the skull!

CARN0TAURUS

There's another thing I find odd but it's not as big of a deal to me as the long face and movable jaw.  The body paint while having very subtle fading and dry brushing,...it almost doesn't fit with the beautiful frill.  The paintwork on the frill is beautiful, hopefully it'll carry over to the production version. 

Faras

PNSO Torosaurus will be available on Taobao from 9:00am (+8GMT), 21st March. Price is 269 yuan, so global price could be $59.99 (Triceratops ¥249), ~$62.99 (if they decide to stay true to mainland price, unlikely tho) or $66.99(Stegosaurus ¥299).

Size: 23 cm x 7.7 cm x 12.2 cm; 5.2cm x 1.6cm x 2.5cm (baby)

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Quote from: CARN0TAURUS on March 19, 2022, 03:41:59 AM
Outside of the movable jaw...why does the face look so long and disproportionate? Their very own images and cutaways show the length of the skull being mostly due to the huge frill, on this model the area from the base of the horns to the tip of the beak looks really elongated and stretched out.  Is that how torosaurus is supposed to look?

avatar_CARN0TAURUS @CARN0TAURUS Folks on Chinese forum speculated that the figure might be based on ANSP 15192:

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