Re-issue of Battat former Museum of Science Boston Series

[Sim]

Your not going to feather the T.Rex are you?

Quite frankly, that would be fantastic.

For you, it would.

But I limit myself to one Model per species per collection. and i alredy have the un Featherd version, and i be torn at the fact that i wont be able to get the more accurate featherd version.

Takama, Dan has already said he isn't planning to give the Tyrannosaurus feathers.

I prefer seeing prehistoric animals restored according to what science shows, I'm not interested in people's deliberately altered versions.  Due to the lack of study into how feathers would affect giant dinosaurs, at this point in time I don't think a feathered Tyrannosaurus is more accurate than an unfeathered one.  There's evidence for it having feathers and it not having feathers, I think it could go either way with T. rex.

I don't intend to start a passionate discussion here, but if Dan were to add feathers to the Tyrannosaurus, wouldn't the Nanshiungosaurus need feathers too?

I hope the T.rex would not be feathered. Just to see it with sharper details and possibly correct the uneven eyes, that would be great. Glad to know that they might be cast in harder, Terra plastic next time.

On my Battat MOS Tyrannosaurus which has the same sculpt as the Battat Terra one, the eyes aren't uneven.  It's head is turned to one side a bit, so that might be giving the illusion its eyes are uneven.

[Appalachiosaurus]

I personally think new dinosaurs (I am really looking forward to the Majungasaurus) and retooling the more outdated ones (feathers on the non-tyrannosaur coelurosaurs) should hold more priority over some simple changes to the better off toys (like the Acro and Tyrannosaur).

[Stuckasaurus (Dino Dad Reviews)]

I personally think new dinosaurs (I am really looking forward to the Majungasaurus) and retooling the more outdated ones (feathers on the non-tyrannosaur coelurosaurs) should hold more priority over some simple changes to the better off toys (like the Acro and Tyrannosaur).

Hear, hear! The Acro is friggin' FINE, people. Yeah, too bad it doesn't perfectly balance, but so what? It at least obviously looks like it's crouching, so it's not like Battat is suggesting it's quadrupedal or anything. A feathered Rex would be nice, sure, but I would much rather see Dan's take on some NEW species rather than waste his time with minor changes to admittedly fantastic older models.

(That being said, I would enjoy seeing a feathered Gallimimus and Utahraptor, since it would change their appearance to the point of being new models, but I don't mind if Dan ever gets to them or not. I'll probably still buy the old ones when they come out.)

[ElTiante]

I am way late to this conversation, BUT is it asking too much of a company that they don't release toys that just fall over?   I'm looking at you, T-Rex.  T-Rex can't actually see ME cuz he is sitting face down on my kitchen island.  I am not asking for ELABORATE play-testing......just sit it down on a table and make sure it stands!!!

I realize the sculpt is great......cuz the original was great, but this a waste of $9.  I guess I'll take it back.

(sigh)

AND this is the second item I've gotten in a short period with the same problem.  I got the Funko Reaction Jaws figures including the shark.  The shark looks good, but when you put him down his face hits the deck and his tail goes in the air. 

Cue Vince Lombardi......."What the H@ll is goin' on out there?!?"

[Victoria's Cantina]

I am way late to this conversation, BUT is it asking too much of a company that they don't release toys that just fall over?   I'm looking at you, T-Rex.  T-Rex can't actually see ME cuz he is sitting face down on my kitchen island.  I am not asking for ELABORATE play-testing......just sit it down on a table and make sure it stands!!!

I realize the sculpt is great......cuz the original was great, but this a waste of $9.  I guess I'll take it back.

(sigh)

AND this is the second item I've gotten in a short period with the same problem.  I got the Funko Reaction Jaws figures including the shark.  The shark looks good, but when you put him down his face hits the deck and his tail goes in the air. 

Cue Vince Lombardi......."What the H@ll is goin' on out there?!?"

I wouldn't say it's a waste of $10. You can easily fix the standing issue by placing a coin underneath its left middle toe. Should you have to do that? No, but at least you can work around it. To be honest, I think it's a heck of a price for a dinosaur toy this nice. It may not be the fanciest T-Rex around, but I don't think you're going to find a better one for the price.

I reviewed the Jaws sharks on my channel. You can place a weight at the back of the shark since it's hollow which helps. It was simply designed to fall forward like that since the fins are angled the way that they are.

[Takama]

The Coin will only work for so long. I used on on mine when i first got it, but after an hour, it topples over and the coin will no longer support it.

I leard that the middle toe has to lean on something in order for it to stand the dino up.   I suggest trying a Basic Lego Tile and put the toe on top of the studs

[Halichoeres]

I personally think new dinosaurs (I am really looking forward to the Majungasaurus) and retooling the more outdated ones (feathers on the non-tyrannosaur coelurosaurs) should hold more priority over some simple changes to the better off toys (like the Acro and Tyrannosaur).

Yup, I hope that we see a ton of new sculpts in this series.

[Victoria's Cantina]

The Coin will only work for so long. I used on on mine when i first got it, but after an hour, it topples over and the coin will no longer support it.

I leard that the middle toe has to lean on something in order for it to stand the dino up.   I suggest trying a Basic Lego Tile and put the toe on top of the studs

I have mine balancing on a button, which is probably about as wide as 2.5 quarters. It hasn't fallen yet, but, I've only had it since this morning. Hopefully it holds.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I am way late to this conversation, BUT is it asking too much of a company that they don't release toys that just fall over?   I'm looking at you, T-Rex.  T-Rex can't actually see ME cuz he is sitting face down on my kitchen island.  I am not asking for ELABORATE play-testing......just sit it down on a table and make sure it stands!!!

I realize the sculpt is great......cuz the original was great, but this a waste of $9.  I guess I'll take it back.

(sigh)

AND this is the second item I've gotten in a short period with the same problem.  I got the Funko Reaction Jaws figures including the shark.  The shark looks good, but when you put him down his face hits the deck and his tail goes in the air. 

Cue Vince Lombardi......."What the H@ll is goin' on out there?!?"

Well you try to fix an issue like balance and solve it in two ways. Add a base and people complain because it's permanent/ more expensive.  You add rods and they don't look good, the tail is tipped too low..honestly it's a common theme around here, something you hear a lot.

[Gwangi]

These people who complain about the standing issue must not understand how big of a deal it is to be able to buy these models for this price, off a shelf. The most recent original Battat Acrocanthosaurus had a BIN price of $129.99! The T. rex, $49.99 and they used to go for considerably more. These are prices for models produced in the mid-90's, many of which have the same standing issues. To be able to buy those same models now for $9.99 IS NOT a waste of money, it's an opportunity every collector should value. Dan has come out and said that these new models are repainted originals. So not only are you buying a Battat model for an insanely low price, you're also buying one that was produced 20 years ago. How much can you really fault them for standing issues?

[Georassic]

These people who complain about the standing issue must not understand how big of a deal it is to be able to buy these models for this price, off a shelf. The most recent original Battat Acrocanthosaurus had a BIN price of $129.99! The T. rex, $49.99 and they used to go for considerably more. These are prices for models produced in the mid-90's, many of which have the same standing issues. To be able to buy those same models now for $9.99 IS NOT a waste of money, it's an opportunity every collector should value. Dan has come out and said that these new models are repainted originals. So not only are you buying a Battat model for an insanely low price, you're also buying one that was produced 20 years ago. How much can you really fault them for standing issues?

Well-said, Gwangi. I am elated to buy them at these prices, which also are cheaper than most Safaris/Schleichs/Papos you find on today's US store shelves. Let's face it, if Target had charged $20 per figure, most of us would still pay, and gladly. These new prices are a deal!

As for the standing issue, for my T-rex and other unbalanced figures, I hit on a very workable solution a couple weeks ago: I took a few wads of my son's air-dry clay, which hardens overnight, and flattened them into coin-sized pads. I pressed the figures' feet into the clay until each figure stood on its own. When the clay dries, the figure is not stuck in the clay, which is now essentially a customized footprint-sized base for each figure. Some figures need only one foot propped this way, some need both feet. For the Battat T-rex, I had to make the clay thicker at one end than the other, so it would form a bevel or slant and tip rexie's toes upward just enough to stand it up firmly. Two weeks later, and none of my formerly wobbly figures have tipped over!

[pylraster]

The standing issue of the Battat rex isn't as bad as that of the Resaurus one.

[Daspletodave]

I think people WOULD complain a lot more if they had to pay $20 or more for these figures that topple over. You'd see a lot more returns too. But for $9.99, this is a GOOD price to pay to have a genuine Battat CLASSIC dinosaur. It makes the whole series obtainable for most people.
Let's not forget that a lot of people (including myself) were not even aware of the Battat line back in the 1990's. And then it disappeared. I obtained all of mine on ebay, and paid a heck of a lot more than $10 per figure.
Target's low price is the price (pun intended) you pay for something less than perfect. And eventually every Target store will be well stocked with all the figures (probably by Thanksgiving at the very latest).

[Georassic]

I think people WOULD complain a lot more if they had to pay $20 or more for these figures that topple over. You'd see a lot more returns too. But for $9.99, this is a GOOD price to pay to have a genuine Battat CLASSIC dinosaur. It makes the whole series obtainable for most people.
Let's not forget that a lot of people (including myself) were not even aware of the Battat line back in the 1990's. And then it disappeared. I obtained all of mine on ebay, and paid a heck of a lot more than $10 per figure.
Target's low price is the price (pun intended) you pay for something less than perfect. And eventually every Target store will be well stocked with all the figures (probably by Thanksgiving at the very latest).

Good point, Dave. And like you, I had never heard of Battats until I started collecting three years ago, and I grew up half an hour from the Boston Museum of Science! (I left Boston about 10 years before the figures debuted.)

[Takama]

One of the things i like about my T.Rex is that the paint does not rub off when it falls over.    The CollectA denichirus frustrated me, because it never stood up and when it fell over, it got paint damage ruining the model. I went through 4 different ones before i found one that would stand perfectly.     With the Battat T.Rex, i don't have this issue, because its very rubbery and every time it falls on its nose, there's not rubs. Also, i knew of the issue before i boght it, and i still shelled out the cash for it, because it was cheap when compared to the Likes of the Rebor Ceratosaurus which is infamous for having standing issues despite costing 3 times as much.

[Pawnosuchus]

I rarely have issues with dinos falling over because in my set-up in the garage the landscape has enough hills and valleys that I can find places to balance them.  I realize that doesn't help members trying to display their figures on flat surfaces but I'd much rather have a figure that i need to "adjust" a little than have a base or rod. Still I believe that companies should be able to design figures that can stand upright without help.  There are numerous figures that stand fine on their own.

[Halichoeres]

I have a fair amount of sympathy and patience for makers of toy theropods. Easy enough when we thought of them as tail-draggers, but now that we know that they would have to be constantly adjusting tendons and muscles to stay upright with their tails aloft, man, how do you do that in plastic? There are a few solutions, but not one that everyone likes: some people hate bases (I don't), some people hate oversized feet (I don't, because usually you can't see the feet on my particular shelves), some people hate tripods (this is my least favorite solution, but I own plenty of them). I am especially lenient when the toy cost me all of $10 (as others have indicated).

[Parasaurolophus]

I know it's not a good fix, but I left my rex in a hot car parked for about two hours. It now stands perfectly fine.

[Dinoguy2]

I have a fair amount of sympathy and patience for makers of toy theropods. Easy enough when we thought of them as tail-draggers, but now that we know that they would have to be constantly adjusting tendons and muscles to stay upright with their tails aloft, man, how do you do that in plastic? There are a few solutions, but not one that everyone likes: some people hate bases (I don't), some people hate oversized feet (I don't, because usually you can't see the feet on my particular shelves), some people hate tripods (this is my least favorite solution, but I own plenty of them). I am especially lenient when the toy cost me all of $10 (as others have indicated).

Agreed, for figures without bases there needs to be some kind of compromise, always. I personally prefer either bases (when done right, some of the early Carnegie bases were very nice looking) or stance adjustment. I don't know what the point of big feet is, because every big-footed theropod I've ever seen is still not in an accurate walking posture* with the exception of the Battat Cryo, which is close. At least with a tripod, you get a "non-typical" stance that was still possible in the living animal and accurate proportions.

* We've long known from footprint evidence, as well as observing modern birds, that theropods walked with one foot directly in front of the other, not in the wide-gauge sumo wrestler stances in most figures. Tripods at least give a plausible excuse for the wide stance, if the animal is rearing up in a threat display it's not supposed to be walking, so the wide stance makes sense.




Try getting this to balance!

[terrorchicken]

base>>>tripod>>>big feet IMO