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REBOR general discussion

Started by Shadowknight1, February 01, 2015, 07:27:37 PM

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Takama

#2320
War pig is a text book example of not giveing a rats rear about acuracy.  Seriously it look like another mislabed euoplocephalus. How in Darwins name could you do this classic mistake REBOR?   Why not call it a Euoplocephalus instead?     ::)



Dyscrasia

Rebor should really stop claiming that their products are accurate. Detailed sculpting does not equal to scientific accuracy.

This is no better than the Papo version, and at least Papo never claims that their dinosaurs are "museum class".


Shonisaurus

I have not yet seen facebook Rebor but it seems from the photos that the jaws are articulated.

It reminds me of the ankylosaurus Favorite Soft Models first version of 2004 now withdrawn from the market. This I say at first sight.

Takama

Quote from: Shonisaurus on June 02, 2017, 03:38:57 PM
I have not yet seen facebook Rebor but it seems from the photos that the jaws are articulated.

It reminds me of the ankylosaurus Favorite Soft Models first version of 2004 now withdrawn from the market. This I say at first sight.

Get this,   They said the Tail will be posable too, and they say that the head will be abl to swival

Shonisaurus

Quote from: Takama on June 02, 2017, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: Shonisaurus on June 02, 2017, 03:38:57 PM
I have not yet seen facebook Rebor but it seems from the photos that the jaws are articulated.

It reminds me of the ankylosaurus Favorite Soft Models first version of 2004 now withdrawn from the market. This I say at first sight.

Get this,   They said the Tail will be posable too, and they say that the head will be abl to swival


Well for that we have the great figures of Lego and to a greater extent Playmovil or Jurassic Park and it is not so expensive and they are excellent figures and other than that they do not presume to be the best company in the world like Rebor and they have been many years in the market of toy.

  This company is becoming respectful in a toy store rather than a medium-serious collector's shop. I honestly have the movable head and the removable tail I do not intend to buy.

Anyway thank you for the information, Takama.

tanystropheus

#2325
Quote from: Takama on June 02, 2017, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: Shonisaurus on June 02, 2017, 03:38:57 PM
I have not yet seen facebook Rebor but it seems from the photos that the jaws are articulated.

It reminds me of the ankylosaurus Favorite Soft Models first version of 2004 now withdrawn from the market. This I say at first sight.

Get this,   They said the Tail will be posable too, and they say that the head will be abl to swival

Awesome! I'm SUPER excited. I've actually wanted a dinosaur model with a swivel for the longest time (David Silva?). Think of all the poses you can make!  ;)

Tyco's DR Protoceratops was an impressive example of the neck swivel done right. Props to REBOR for trying new things with old models (and archetypes)  :)

tanystropheus

#2326
Quote from: Dyscrasia on June 02, 2017, 03:37:12 PM
Rebor should really stop claiming that their products are accurate. Detailed sculpting does not equal to scientific accuracy.

This is no better than the Papo version, and at least Papo never claims that their dinosaurs are "museum class".

Now, the real question is: How accurate is the REBOR "War Pig" as a Euoplocephalus?

I understand that the Papo Ankylosaurus Euoplocephalus had problems with hip width...

"museum class" is a marketing buzzword (kind of like "blast processing"). We've had like a gazillion threads on the philosophy behind such labels.

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empire3569

I'll bet their upcoming Stegosaurus has a pose-able tail as well; I don't mind the nendable tails as long as they don't make the figure look/feel to gimmicky.

I had a small hope this would actually be an accurate Ankylosaur, but I can't say I'm surprised it's not. Although I honestly expected them to base the model off of a Saichania as opposed to a Euoplocephalus if they were going to get it wrong

One piece of solace is that even though this figure is not an accurate Ankylosaurus, maybe Rebor has plans for a feathered Rex to accompany the piece, since they like to do dioramas

Reptilia

#2329
The sculpt looks definitely cool, but I don't like the idea of articulated jaws on herbivores. And I like even less the bendable tail, it gives me the sense of a toy more than a collector's model. Plus makes the figure more fragile. I will happily stick to my Papo Ankylosaurus.

They said the Parasaurolophus is moved to next year, while they didn't mention Styracosaurus at all. At this point I think the remaining Rebor's offer for 2017 will include "Jack" and "Alex", the two crocs, another JP raptor, Ankylosaurus, Stegosaurus and Triceratops. I hope that "King Trident" won't have all these articulations, sometimes I feel like Rebor tries too many things with their products just to be different from other companies. With rather poor results, see Deinonychus trio.

Takama

#2330
ITs this model that makes me think that they dont know as much about Dinosaurs that they think they do.   

Shonisaurus

Quote from: Reptilia on June 02, 2017, 06:53:33 PM
The sculpt looks definitely cool, but I don't like the idea of articulated jaws on herbivores. And I like even less the bendable tail, it gives me the sense of a toy more than a collector's model. Plus makes the figure more fragile. I will happily stick to my Papo Ankylosaurus.


Reptilia I agree with everything you say. There is so much articulation for supposedly a figure of collection.

Faelrin

That articulation and bendable tail feature sounds interesting to me. Then again I like articulation, because I prefer action figures, which are also really lacking for dinosaurs outside of the new BotM line and JP toys, and such. I might have to pick this one up, since there's no telling when another ankylosaur figure with articulation will pop up, and ankylosaurs are some of my favorite dinosaurs. The color scheme and price will probably be the ultimate deciding factor for me to buy it though.
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Reptilia

#2333
I think the price won't be too high, maybe around the same as the Tenontosaurus corpse. Still about twice as the Papo, for two models that will probably be comparable in size.

AcroSauroTaurus

As an Ankylosaurus, its bad, but as a figure in general, pretty good. Its definitely not a Euoplocephalus either, looks more like Saichania, or one of those other asian ankylosaurs. I still think they should've named it "War Hammer"...
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suspsy



I'm going to give REBOR credit for getting the head right overall. Especially the placement of the nostrils. The body, however, looks too short and the plates have both the wrong shape and the wrong configuration.

It really saddens me how the Carnegie Collection Ankylosaurus is still the most accurate toy even after nearly fourteen years.

Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

tanystropheus

#2336
It's clearly NOT an Ankylosaurus. It is mislabeled (perhaps, intentionally so, for marketing purposes). The MAJORITY of dinosaur models in the market that are labeled, "Ankylosaurus" are Euoplocephalus.

However,

The real question is: How accurate is the REBOR "War Pig" as an EUOPLOCEPHALUS? I know people are dodging this question (especially, those that have a bone to pick with REBOR because of personal issues with the company etc.) so that the model can be dismissed altogether. Yeah, I get it.

I understand that the Papo Ankylosaurus Euoplocephalus had problems with hip width...

It would be nice if someone was generous enough to upload an accurate illustration of EUOPLOCEPHALUS so that we can have a reasonable, fair and scientific-oriented, non-partisan discussion about accuracy.

Dyscrasia

#2337
I don't know how up-to-date this particular image is,



but with the assumption that the skeletal drawing at least reflects the actual dinosaur to some degree, the body shape obviously differs along with the shape and placement of osteoderms and spikes.

Also, I am not a Rebor hater and I actually own almost everything they have put out so far. The paint apps of the production pieces are spot on (which I sadly can't say the same about the Sideshow statues), and the details and overall aesthetics of the Rebor models are pleasing to the eyes regardless of scientific accuracy imho.

Reptilia

#2338
It's Rebor we're talking about, asking for non-partisan discussion is like asking people to accept that Trump was democratically elected, basically impossible!

Simon

Quote from: Reptilia on June 03, 2017, 06:03:42 AM
It's Rebor we're talking about, asking for non-partisan discussion is like asking people to accept that Trump was democratically elected, basically impossible!


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