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Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom by Mattel - new for 2019

Started by Prehistory Resurrection, August 04, 2018, 03:08:47 PM

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Flaffy

#60
I honestly have no clue what this is, anyone willing to take a guess?
It resembles an allosaurid... but it has 2 fingers... A poorly executed Tyrannosaurid perhaps?


Takama

Quote from: Flaffy on October 13, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
I honestly have no clue what this is, anyone willing to take a guess?


Someone on Facebook said Albertosaurus

mgaguilar

#62
Jesus christ look at the size of those osteoderms.
Does anyone else think the skull also resembles more of an Allosaurus than the JW:FK Allosaurus?

It's a good-looking sculpt, albeit monstrous. But does anyone know if the Battle Damage line is getting Action-Attack scale figures?

MLMjp

A battle damage Albertosaurus?

Not bad, but that head resembles Allosaurus more than Albertosaurus.

I am the only one who is starting to worry about the number of species being revealed making less and less space for a Parasaurolophus figure to come? (Remember they said there will be 16 new species) Specially after that Instagram comment hinting that they might make one for these line?

EDIT: What if it is a Teratophoneus? There was a corpse made for Fallen kingdom, even if they don't look similar.

Faelrin

#64
I was just about to post about that. You all beat me to it, lol.

Anyways that leaves about 2 more species (of the new 16 for 2019) left now that we don't know about (if we include the species that have been rumored such as the Indominus rex, Parasaurolophus, and Quetzalcoatlus). Assuming none of the ones leaked so far have been canceled for any reason (give or take the amazon listings in those as well), beyond the Therizinosaurus.

I honestly am surprised to see this one. I would never have expected another tyrannosaur species to be made as a toy (although this was a species in JP:OG). I wonder how big this one will be. It almost looks like a retool of the Carnotaurus, but I doubt that is the case. Guess it's got to be one of those unnamed (either #3, #4, or #5) Walmart listings that show up on brickseek when searching for Jurassic World Battle Damage (which the Plesiosaurus and new Pteranodon also do). My guess is the remaining ones will either be repaints or new species. Time will tell.

Edit: I wonder if this tyrannosaurid could be used as a Gorgosaurus. I often see that one depicted with the crests (which seem to be on the skull too?) far more then Albertosaurus. In any case I'm still surprised there's an additional tyrannosaurid in this line, considering how often the T. rex overshadows everything.
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

tanystropheus

Quote from: Takama on October 13, 2018, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: Flaffy on October 13, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
I honestly have no clue what this is, anyone willing to take a guess?


Someone on Facebook said Albertosaurus


It looks pretty impressive, almost on par with their T-rex and considerably better than their Allosaurus.

ChrisLikesDinos

Quote from: Flaffy on October 13, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
I honestly have no clue what this is, anyone willing to take a guess?
It resembles an allosaurid... but it has 2 fingers... A poorly executed Tyrannosaurid perhaps?


This is interesting, it seems the Battle Damage line is getting a 'deluxe' Action Attack sized SKU as well! I wonder what other dinos will populate it... perhaps a Carnotaurus retool?

Side note -- if others are good at searching Brick Seek, it appears these listings are on there, but I can't pull them by keyword. I imagine the whole line is there if you know how to look.

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker?sku=327008131

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker?sku=447669176

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DerbesSchuhwerk

QuoteDoes anyone else think the skull also resembles more of an Allosaurus than the JW:FK Allosaurus?

Exactly that was my first thought. I am very unhappy with the FK Allosaurus. Both, with the movie and the toy version. In my opinion their depiction hardly resembles an Allosaurus. And theToy with the weird toothline. Looks very sloppy executed.

suspsy

Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

Dilopho

Looks awesome.

I'm excited for that T. rex...!!
One of my ideals would be for that 6 inch figure line to have a few "Non scale" characters such as the T. rex. in 6 inch form.
You know what I mean? A 6 inch articulated t. rex would be so neat for my stopmotions.

Gwangi

I like it, especially because it's a non-Tyrannosaurus tyrannosaur. It does look more like an Allosaurus than anything though, which I guess is alright because I was really disappointed by the actual Allosaurus.

It reminds me of Alice the Allosaurus from the Land of the Lost movie. Never mind the movie itself, I did like the character design on that dinosaur though.

Dilopho

Oh, yes! You're right.
I always forget that the allosaurus explodes in that movie xD

SpinoRex

                                                                                                                       
First picture of the new Concavenator figure I loved


MLMjp

Please tell me that the Concaventor is not going to be as big as the Suchomimus :-\
It looks....alright. :P

EDIT: WAIT A MOMENT! Does the Concavenator have THUMBS?? :o Worst Concavenator EVER

Faelrin

#74
The Concavenator is part of the Dual Attack assortment, as is that retooled and repainted Suchomimus, so it probably is the same size.

And to be honest I'm kind of disappointed with this one. Maybe seeing the actual toy might change my mind, but I think the color choices clash, and the pronated wrists (while this is a Jurassic toy, a good lot of the figures have been pretty good about this thing, like the Suchomimus for example), and unnecessary fourth digit just ruins it a bit for me.

Edit: Something about the head just looks frog like too. Maybe it's the big eyes it has.
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Appalachiosaurus

That pic is a bit misleading, as the Concavenator is in the dual attack line which is about the same size and price point as the roar-a-vore line. The Suchomimus is the "Mega" duel attack line (which apparently has an Amargasaurus and a Quetzalcoatlus too).

Doesn't really excuse the man-hands though.

Flaffy

The arms and hands on the Concavenator disgust me. Why does Mattel have this obsession with adding extra fingers to dinosaurs? (cough Herrerasaurus cough)
Other than the horrifying human hands though, the rest of the model looks decent so far... Can't be sure though, who knows of the feet will have an extra digit or two  ;)

Blade-of-the-Moon


MLMjp

Quote from: Flaffy on October 18, 2018, 04:48:10 AM
The arms and hands on the Concavenator disgust me. Why does Mattel have this obsession with adding extra fingers to dinosaurs? (cough Herrerasaurus cough)
Other than the horrifying human hands though, the rest of the model looks decent so far... Can't be sure though, who knows of the feet will have an extra digit or two  ;)
They didn't add an extra finger to the Herrerasaurus, they just put the dewclaws of the feet in the hands. >:D
Quote from: Faelrin on October 18, 2018, 12:29:27 AM
Edit: Something about the head just looks frog like too. Maybe it's the big eyes it has.
Well, frog DNA... ::)

Faelrin

#79
I would really like to know why whoever is doing these sculpts keeps doing this unnecessary fourth finger thing. I mean the Herrerasaurus in a way (I'll explain more below), and the Spinosaurus mini for sure (which even has a similar hand to the Herrerasaurus figure). Now this Concavenator. Would doing a little bit of research hurt?

So from what I was reading, Herrerasaurus does have 5 digits in its hand, but 2 of those would have been vestigial, and looking at skeletals, probably would not have been visible in life. It did also have 5 toes, with the the most outer toe not having a claw, and the most inner toe probably being similar to the dew claw on other theropods.

While I know the sculpt of this figure was not entirely based upon the one from the game, at least the Attack Pack version has a similar color scheme which was confirmed by both Universal and Mattel to be based on the one from the Telltale game. The one from that game does not even show the fourth or fifth digits on the game however, judging screenshots on google images. Of course that isn't the only accuracy issue with the figure (such as the too short neck, and way too long fenestra).

It seems like the dinosaur species that are not in films are either going to be a hit or miss (if only they were all hits though) in regards to their design and accuracy. The Protoceratops seems very good (as does the upcoming Styracosaurus), even if the feet are not correct, but that is fine for a Jurassic toyline as the film creatures don't have that right (being retro these days). The Suchomimus has some issues (mainly the fin, and the lack of its enlarged first digit claw), but overall not too bad. The Proceratosaurus, Dimetrodon (the goofy head, and 3 toes on each foot is off putting. Although I'm ultimately okay with this one because it is still a Dimetrodon, one of my favorite genus, even if it is a poorly done attempt at one, and I do dig the color scheme on the upcoming one due to its resemblance to the one from the diorama in the film), and this upcoming Concavenator are disappointing (if only it resembled the one from the diorama in the film. Too bad), but perhaps better then nothing for those wanting extra species to collect. Who knows, maybe once I see the final toy, I could change my mind, but there's probably species I could spend money on getting first too.

Edit: While I realize this post is quite long already, I think I would rather update this then do a new post. While Jurassic Outpost's article on the 2019 assortment has hinted at a late 2018 release for some of these, Mattel has also hinted at it in a comment in this instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpDIhjWDBm1/?hl=en&taken-by=mattel

And on topic of the Concavenator fourth finger, this is the response (rather generic at that) they gave to someone on twitter asking about it: https://twitter.com/Mattel/status/1053014347218395143
Aside from the fact it was probably a generic response, it is odd because this toy doesn't even resemble the one in the diorama in the film, other then genus choice I guess. I only have to wonder if Universal has some decision making in what species they make as toys, and how they are to design them, since they are being sold under the Jurassic license, which would probably be the only way to justify that kind of response (other then it being a generic one).
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

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